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Lately I often read about kbin.social being similar to lemmy but more accessible. So I created an account there to check it out. My experience so far is a little mixed. From kbin I can access all Lemmy posts, although I find the interface less intuitive to join new communities. So from the kbin side it feels like an other Lemmy instance.

But when searching for kbin from this Lemmy Account, I do not find much. I feel like I am missing some basic concept, that makes it pretty clear. Why this is such a one way experience.

So now I am wondering: How does this work, what are the difference, what do both sites have in common?

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[–] mrmanager 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is there a reason why instances couldn't just index and show all the communities from other federated instances?

Right now you have to do this to add a community from another instance:

  • Visit it, look in communities, copy the link to the community
  • Go back to the instance you were, paste link into search box and hit enter, then click the link, open sidebar, and click subscribe.

I don't see why instances couldn't just have an index over communities on all federated instances, so it's a one click action to subscribe to any community in the entire Lemmy fediverse.

If this was implemented it would lower the bar for new users enormously, and encourage a lot more cross instance subscriptions.

[–] acedelgado@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Word is Lemmy and kbin are working to make the process more automated, so if you click a link to a community/magazine your instance want aware of it'll start aggregation without having to manually do the search. Downside of going with a free, open source, decentralized solution is there aren't a bunch of devs dedicated to updating the platforms for a living, so features will roll out slower.

[–] FaceDeer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Like features just flew out the door for us at Reddit. :)

[–] Draconic_NEO@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Hopefully they'll be able to something soon. That is ultimately the big downside to decentralized open source solutions but it sure outweighs the drawbacks of the closed source centralized ones as will become painfully apparent on June 12

[–] jeena@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How would one instance know that I set up a new instance without a central service?

[–] mrmanager 2 points 1 year ago

When you subscribe to a community from another instance, it learns your instance exists and starts sending it messages and receives responses.

[–] dragnucs@social.touha.me 1 points 1 year ago

@jeena @YoTcA @milan @mrmanager user discovery. But generally they don't know.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can make it so they can request community lists from servers they're actively connecting to, but because of the decentralized nature of things, servers are not automatically connected to other servers. And I don't believe a server even needs to be directly connected to another at all to receive posts and comments from users there if they're routed through a community on a server it is following.

Spinning up a Fediverse server does not inform any other server that it exists, any more than it informs Etsy that it exists.

[–] mrmanager 1 points 1 year ago

Not by itself but posting from it does. Lemmy.ml knows about hundreds of small instances because we post from them. :)