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The latest show on Tenacious D’s Australian tour has been postponed after senator Ralph Babet demanded the pair be deported following an apparent joke about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

American comedy rock duo Jack Black and Kyle Gass were due to perform in Newcastle on Tuesday evening, but the show – part of the band’s Spicy Meatball Tour – was cancelled without notice on Tuesday afternoon.

Concert promoter Frontier Touring said on social media that it regretted “to advise that Tenacious D’s concert tonight at Newcastle Entertainment Centre has been postponed”.

Video from the event showed (Kyle) Gass being presented with a birthday cake and told to “make a wish” as he blew out the candles. Gass then appeared to say “don’t miss Trump next time” – just hours after the shooting at Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania that left the former president injured.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 79 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The fascists were already there, they're just not hiding anymore.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

True, but they're recruiting new members faster than before.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are they? I haven't read many articles about their recruitment numbers.

I feel like they've been steadily crawling out from under rocks, but I don't know if the base itself is growing.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's influencers targeting "outsiders." There have always been outsiders, whether in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, etc. Sometimes that's even healthy. But because that only became a source of strongly-defined "identity" and "pride," often people in the past would grow out of it or use it productively (as a source of empathy for other outsiders) and leave only a small dedicated core group who were vulnerable to being exploited.

The difference is that now these influencers indoctrinate a vulnerable audience at the right time, and coach that audience into making alt-right talking points a part of their identity. Social media then allows those new recruits to see each other and create a community that self-reinforces.

There is no equivalent push on the left, because the left assumes that sense will eventually prevail. It was true decades ago, but now there is no reason to believe that - those indoctrinated never have to confront their doctrine, they live surrounded by it.

So yep, it's going to keep growing. The only solution I can think of is to regulate news media to penalize lying and propaganda. That itself is nearly impossible to do right, since it will be abused by every right-wing leader if there is any opportunity.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Online extremism makes sense, and targeting the vulnerable makes sense, I'm more curious about the specific growth by numbers versus the numbers before, as far as we have them.

I'll look into it.

So many socially progressive policies grow more popular according to general population polls, I can't help but feel like the loud and proud conservatives are making it seem like there are more than their actually are.

Even in Europe, before Trump was a twinkle in he conservative eye, there were plenty of alt-right movements, they just weren't socially acceptable.

I was in a tiny town in Austria one week and the bar patrons were complaining about some local fascist event/gathering that they were all embarrassed about, or so I was told.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

True but now they're all rallying behind Trump like he's their divine leader.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It does seem like he's tearing the traditional conservative movement apart though where they hide under rocks and bite ankles. Now they're all just kind of naked in the wind.

It is creepy,, the cult like fascination they have with such a dumb, gross rapist, but I'd rather have all the zealots comfortably exposed and openly committing fraud and getting fired for slurs then secretly planning these movements like they've been doing for decades.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The second cumming as it were.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

He's a false prophet at best.

Motherfucker is a charlatan. People believe he is filthy rich and he can make them rich too if they work for him. But that asshole only thinks about himself, as he has proven repeatedly with all his past projects.