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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lower taxes, subsidies, avoiding government prices hikes, public policy regarding police action - all sorts of things - this article explains it pretty well

https://time.com/5476534/french-protests-successful-macron/?amp=true

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

France has astronomically higher taxes that the US does.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Astronomically".

This is like making fun of a fireman using a bucket of water that's twice as large as your bucket to put out a house fire.

They pay twice as much in taxes. Vs the ludicrous cost of most basic citizen necessities in the United States .

Pay twice as much in taxes, you get affordable/basically free healthcare and adorable/basically free higher education(medical school is 2k a year in France). Affordable, reliable long-distance transportation/physical transportation infrastructure, a living and functional social security, but sure. Careful of those taxes you could pay that would cover all basic human necessities plus all major financial concerns until you croak.

As an example, instead of paying $3,000 in taxes per year, you could pay $6,000 in taxes per year, and you would be free to pursue any education you liked, including medical school, for $1000-$2000 per year instead of paying 30k per year just to learn core classes. Good thing you saved that 3k during tax season.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd certainly rather have lower taxes and only pay for services I actually fucking want.

[–] SimplyKnorax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds a lot like "it's not my problem until it actually affects me personally".

I don't know why people want to avoid paying as little taxes as possible when it basically improves the infrastructures/services in their own communities.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds a lot like “it’s not my problem until it actually affects me personally”.

That is, fundamentally, the definition of "my problem". If I'm not effected, it isn't my problem, simply by nature of not effecting me. Not exactly sure what point you're trying to make with it.

I don’t know why people want to avoid paying as little taxes as possible when it basically improves the infrastructures/services in their own communities

Because I have little interest in community services and infrastructure.

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, when you consider the US government spends more (almost twice as much) on healthcare per capita than most countries with free healthcare, you're literally paying more taxes for it AND you have to shell out 50k$ when something bad happens.

Your only argument is "Taxes bad" even when we're talking about a system that would actually cost less taxes, just because it has a side effect of also helping less fortunate people.

How much more egocentric can you get lmao

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you’re literally paying more taxes for it AND you have to shell out 50k$ when something bad happens

And yet my taxes are significantly lower than if I were in any of the countries with socialized systems.

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not unless you're in like Arizona or Florida or other shit low-taxes states full of freedumb.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So unless I pay lower taxes, I don't pay power taxes? Brilliant fucking conclusion you've come to there

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah what I'm saying is that most states' taxation rates are pretty close to what you'd get in other developed countries.

Except pretty much every other developed country has cheap healthcare and education. The US is truly alone in this, and it shows, because the US also has some of the worst inequalities of the modern world.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because the US also has some of the worst inequalities of the modern world.

Ok and I care why?

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because maybe, just maybe, you're a good person?

Oh and also because pretty much every economist agrees that lower inequalities are better for the economy. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh and also because pretty much every economist agrees that lower inequalities are better for the economy

Sorry, I don't consider the purpose of life to be optimizing spreadsheets.

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, not a good person even when it would be advantageous to you, sorry I forgot you're actively trying to be an asshole lmao We had already established that, sorry.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Once again, it wouldn't be advantageous in the slightest