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Funny, the comment types here are the same as on Youtube:

  1. "I still run Android and it is totally fine, will never switch Android just got worse!"
  2. "Well, money"
  3. "Companies need to support phones longer"
  4. "I just use LineageOS on that device"
  5. Misinformation
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[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I recently upgraded from android 13 to 14 on Lineage and didn't have to wipe but to be honest, there was nothing new. Only back gestures were an interesting addition

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You dont see security patches...

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah I meant android wise

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is patched monthly. Also there hasn't been a lot of major security issues with Android. It has a pretty tight security model.

https://endoflife.date/lineageos

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Android is pretty secure. The kernel is highly stripped down, so it is more like a microkernel. Like, removing support for most filesystems etc.

They also moved a ton of things into userspace, I think their entire filesystem uses fuse.

Android is really good.

But still, LineageOS may implement all the minimum AOSP patches. But Google Pixel phones get more than those.

And monthly is of course slower than weekly, bjt expected if you support such a vast range of devices.

Then the issue of course is, is the firmware still supported? Where do the kernels come from?

These are likely out of reach for the devs.

Also, their OS is very generic, just AOSP with mostly cosmetic changes.

Where GrapheneOS implements tons of deep modifications, which makes updates and maintenance a bigger task. These features also cause more bugs which need fixing.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Weekly updates wouldn't work at all and would take lots of time. From a Lineage OS perspective they maintain there own apps as the AOSP ones are abandoned. They all match the Android 14 UI. Also the default web browser is actually a usable browser.

I don't really understand the Graphene OS die hards. At the end of the day they are both from the same source. The issues with Graphene is it has a lot of extra bloat and complexity. It also is not really stock AOSP which isn't as nice. Lineage OS isn't stock either but they don't make changes unless it has a very really cosmetic benefit. I don't really care for Graphene OS.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

Yes the LineageOS apps are really nice. GrapheneOS usese the same, but the old versions.

They maintain different apps.

Their core OS is even more minimal than that of LineageOS, apart from shipping an extremely privacy and security optimized variant of Chromium. So no bloat there.

complexity, yes.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Were you able to do it over the air or did you have to connect to a computer to do so?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

You can't do a Android version upgrade via OTA. You need to either flash it with a computer or use an SD card and the recovery tools.

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I can't do that. I'm on the OnePlus Nord N200. And it does not give me that option.