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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[โ€“] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it is alone in its unique capabilities as an all-volunteer free site. That's not to say other free+volunteer sites don't exist, but, rather, that we can't lump it with others since they'll have their own goals for providing their free instances. And it obviously can't be compared to "social media sites", as that carries implicit connotation of for-profit sites.

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What specifically would you say makes copyright law apply differently to lemmy.world?

[โ€“] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That it doesn't matter if they're right or wrong, they can't afford the lawyers to fight it? Seriously pirates, there's an easy solution, just host your own instance.

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said, this isn't new ground being traversed. There is a pretty straightforward method for dealing with this that doesn't involve lawsuits unless the LW admins intentionally ignore the process.

People here are acting as if LW is some unique thing and that copyright law is an unknown entity. We know how this works. The person I responded to seems to think that LW is somehow unique, and I would like to understand their thought process.

[โ€“] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or spend that time creating your instance maybe?

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This rebuttal you keep falling back on makes no sense. What do you think it's refuting?

[โ€“] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poor reading comprehension. You've said the same thing three times and every reply has nothing to do with what you said.

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are indeed very wise, fuckfuckmyfuckingass.

I only commented so I could type out your username haha.

Thanks Joe,

You have great reading comprehension!

[โ€“] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does it not make sense for you guys to be unhappy with how this instance works so you leave and take all of the responsibility on yourselves by creating your own instance?

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I might end up leaving-- more for the ban stuff than the blocking piracy stuff-- but that's wholly beside the point when it comes to whether copyright law works like people are suggesting. It doesn't. The LW admins aren't going to be unexpectedly served papers for a lawsuit. They're going to get a boilerplate email with information on a claim of copyright infringement and they're going to remove the content without question and that will be the end of it.

Like I said, "just leave if you don't like it" has nothing to do with the point I'm making.

[โ€“] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meh, it just sounds like whining at best.

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

How does "that's not how this works" sound like whining? I can't tell if you're just not reading anything, or if you are desperately trying to have a different conversation with me than the one I'm having.