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[–] Rivalarrival 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Mark Kelly.

Navy Pilot, Navy Captain, Astronaut, Senator,, husband of Gabby Giffords, twin brother of Scott Kelly with similar resumé, and he's only 60. He and his brother can each win two terms and still be younger than Trump is now.

He also flips red states blue: he's pretty much the only Democrat who has won anything in Arizona in decades.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"only 60" - the depressing state of politics. There's a good amount of places where you'd retire before completing a single term at that age.

[–] Rivalarrival 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm rather tired of the nation being run by workaholics. I want to retire someday. I want a candidate who shares that value, and builds a nation where I can do that.

Ideally, I think the oldest a candidate should be is 57 at the beginning of their first term, so that they retire from professional politics by 65.

That being said, no candidate is ever going to be perfect, and, he's still 24 years better than the current option.

[–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago

Good thing China has a number of honey trap spies. I'm sure Schiff will be eager to tell them all the dirty, dirty secrets of a US President

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And the reality is modern medical science has made 60 the new 50.

Which kinda works. because modern education has made 20 the new 14.

/s
//class wars are awesome!

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, try being the candidate talking shit about an astronaut and decorated servicemember. "I like people who stay on Earth." Well I don't!

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I like people who obey the law of gravity."

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He could retort by saying that he was obeying gravity, but falling continuously towards the earth while traveling at a speed that kept him from hitting the ground.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That implies the earth is round which might alienate some voters from that base.

Although.... It might attract the "I'm a sekrit alean" bloc....

We should shop this, maybe do a tabletop....

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've actually been casting him as VP in my head for like four weeks now.

I think it's more likely than Biden being president next year, so fingers crossed.

[–] Rivalarrival 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Harris will get steamrolled by either Trump or Vance; Kelly wipes the floor with both of them. I think Kelly needs to be on the top of the ticket, and Harris needs to step down as well.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

Did you not read the graph? She's a lock.

I mean, Kelly is a lock too. Anyone who can fog a mirror and doesn't get an erection watching Starship Troopers will win this election. But Harris is kind of right there already, so that works for me. She could probably keep using the same email address and business cards. That's a nice plus.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I think casting away Kamala as the pick would do more harm than good. She is the likely candidate. Joe can even make the transition smooth by entrusting the rest of his legacy with her, which is the reason he chose her as a VP in the first place.

People also know the name Kamala Harris, and they've known it for years now. It'll be a huge turn to bring in a new candidate on top and do all of the rallying needed to get votes.

I think Kamala's success will spend on the VP choice, her administration, and her campaign team more than her herself.

[–] Rivalarrival 4 points 1 month ago

She doesn't have a significant enough presence to challenge Trump. People may know her name, but they couldn't pick her out of a lineup.

Kelly just has to stand there while being introduced as "Astronaut" or "Fighter Pilot" to remind everyone that Trump hasn't actually done anything with his life.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mark Kelly as Kamala's VP? Having that balance of ethnicity would help her get the votes. It's exactly why Obama picked Biden

[–] Rivalarrival 5 points 1 month ago

Kelly's "blue" credentials are sound, and his history will appeal to many otherwise "red" voters. He is a real threat to poach votes from Trump's base in red and swing states.

Harris can't do that. She's a lawyer, and everyone hates lawyers.

But nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket. Harris/Kelly loses; Kelly/Harris wins.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

nope, he's too bald. can't be havin that

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

100% has my vote

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rivalarrival 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Adam Schiff is a lawyer and California Democrat. He would easily win the blue states, but so would about 30 million other Democrats.

The red states will hate him, and he's opposed by BLM, so he won't be competitive in the swing states either.

There's nothing special about him.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That's fair. I'd vote for him, but then again I'd vote for a soggy roll of single-ply toilet paper over Trump.