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Some people will be miserable no matter who is running

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Any good faith criticism of the Dem candidate should be obvious in its criticisms that R policies are inherently worse. For example, Harris’ record as DA is worth criticizing, but any bad decisions related to imprisoning people are going to be a million times worse under Trump, as Project 2025 shows.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any good faith criticism of the Dem candidate should be obvious in its criticisms that R policies are inherently worse.

Your argument would be great if we didn't live in the reality presented below. There are too many people sitting on the fence who legitimately cannot discern between a mediocre candidate and a career conman, criminal rapist. Where you see nuance, others see "she's no better than Trump".

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240721200927/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

I like Harris as much as I like Biden, which is not at all, but the alternative is the very real possibility of the end of America.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For my money those charts will look very different after the next debate.

There’s also not a combination of words that’s going to convince me leftists criticizing Dems are going to kill America. Even if Trump gets elected, you are missing every potential lesson if what you take away is “leftists too mean.”

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah discouraging voters has never led anywhere bad before.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Normal people don't read lefty struggle sessions on the internet. 🙄

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a good thing they only let "normal" people vote.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Normal people decide elections.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no idea what you mean by "normal" but many many mentally unhealthy people vote. If they didn't, trump wouldn't have ever been a thing

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

The average person i.e. people who mostly don't read online discussions about politics and get their opinions from legacy media and the other normal people in their own lives. Deranged politics freaks like us do not influence elections even slightly.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Being honest isn't discouraging, it's not being infantilizing.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Exactly this. On this platform and elsewhere, there is a lot of well-meaning criticism but there are many agents of chaos or narrative pushers that disguise themselves as genuine criticism. I try to interact genuinely and give an opportunity to demonstrate that they are looking for a constructive path forward for the party.