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Some people will be miserable no matter who is running

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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I don't know.

I really dislike Harris. She's probably the bottom of my pick list for the nominee and a Dem President.

But it's not like a gaping sore of a liability the way Biden was.

I'm excited the conversation can finally shift to "Trump fell asleep during his own convention? Doesn't he seem tired in his speech?"

I think it being a woman nominee is an interesting newsworthy discussion point at a time when the other party is actively working to harm women - even if she's the last of the many other qualified women I'd rather see in the position.

I don't like her, I don't like listening to her nonsensical off the cuff statements, I thought she did very poorly in the 2020 campaign, I am anxious about a law enforcement politician as President in a system with too much Presidential power over the Justice department.

But in spite of all that, I just don't care enough to push back strongly on her.

She's boring in the neoliberal way we've gotten used to, but she's not addled and she's not a neo-Nazi, and with an interesting VP pick she's a ticket I could potentially even be excited about four months from now instead of watching her be put into a nursing home as the October surprise.

I'd love to see an actual competitive open convention, but barring that I'm just going to accept a turd sandwich that's palatable, as even that seemed like a stretch a week ago, and I'll take what I can get.

[–] abracaDavid -3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I don't like Harris at all. She's just more status quo. We need big changes. Climate crisis is looming.

The more salient point though, is that I don't think she is the candidate to beat Trump. She just isn't very likable. She's not inspiring anyone.

We need someone with some juice to beat Trump. We need a candidate that gets people excited.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

She doesn't need to be inspiring. She just needs to not be half dead.

I think people are underestimating just how weak of a candidate Trump has become.

It just wasn't really able to be capitalized on because we were doing a whole "the emperor has clothes" thing on the left so the left media couldn't point out Trump running around naked.

He's old and tired. And there's now 4 months to show him as not only a fascist, but a half dead one that's meandering and weak.

He was only able to cosplay as a strongman when his opponent was literally presenting with Parkinson's. Against a younger person the narrative immediately becomes "old man yells at clouds" and his BS can be rebranded as 'confused.'

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago

I'm firmly of the opinion that no positive change will happen in time unless it's at the point of a sword.

And I'm still backing Harris. The Democratics would never permit a progressive to run, but at least this way we have a chance at 8 years before fascism wins. With Biden, we would have been lucky to get 4.

And who knows, maybe she'll pick a progressive VP to maintain the appearance of being for the working class!

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I agree. But there's not enough time to get momentum on any of the other front runners. She has the biggest name without a lot of negativity from Right propaganda (Newsom).

She's our candidate. Any kind of run off is going to waste time and probably fragment the party. I'll vote for Harris. Not as happily as I would even the old and faltering Biden that dropped out. But I'll fall in line and vote for her, and promote her to others.

Because it's our best chance.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Who is the one to beat Donald in your opinion?

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