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What are these fucking people doing on Twitter anyway? Why they hanging out with the Nazis? You're still on Twitter this point I have some healthy suspicions about your character.
People go where they think the people are. X is still the closest thing to Twitter since Elon came along. I deleted my account, but feel like I’m in the minority.
You know I once read this really amazing book called They Thought They Were Free. It was written by a journalist right after World War II who went to Germany and talked to normal Germans just German citizens. About how they allowed Nazis to take over how they lived in a Nazi Society how they were okay with it how they kind of joined in on it. A lot of the things they said being said in this thread. It's all the same fucking logic.
If they choose to support Twitter, they must expect to take the consequences. It's a known cess pit. Being active on a centralised network does harm. You can't grizzle after drawing innocent people in to such a bad place.
They are on Twitter because nothing has displaced Twitter for what it is. That's tricky because people follow the content, so the content generators, the heavy hitters, have to choose en masse to go somewhere else.
I think that's what that Dulles brother said about why he kept doing business with the Nazis even into the 1940s. Even when the rest of the heads of his business said you should stop doing this we don't need to be invested with the Nazis they just invaded Poland he said no money still there I want to hang out with Nazis.
Cuz here's the thing if everyone who wasn't one left that site it wouldn't be a problem anymore, a different site would be used.
I'm on Twitter because all the OSINT people who track the invasion/war in Ukraine basically only use Twitter. I like following OSINT info to get a real perspective on what's going on.
I'd like in on that perspective but I'm not going to twitter for anyone. Shit is toxic and stupid.
On Ukraine, got any non twitter suggestions for perspective? Also, not familiar with OSINT. Care to enlighten me? Open source intel tools?
Exactly what you said! Open Source INTelegence. Basically people taking publicly available data and using it to confirm attacks. Things like NASA FIRMS data can be used to verify where fires are; and when combined with videos of a fire in the direction of an airfield, for example, can be used to confirm that yes, on this specific date, these parts of an airfield are on fire.
Understandable, I don't know of anyone off of Twitter but maybe some of the people I follow are on Mastodon. I'll try and find out sometime and get back if they are.
And yea pretty much, just stands for open source intelligence, people just use publicly available data (mostly drone videos, and paid satellite imagery) to analyze progress from both parties in the conflict giving a real, semi live perspective on advances on the ground, what kind of equipment and quantity of that equipment that have been destroyed.
This site by oryx is the main one I know of that tracks destroyed Russian equipment that's confirmed through imagery, so the numbers are likely fairly lower than reality, and the destruction numbers are still staggering.
Ops I see someone below already linked oryx and some other good sources!
Maybe it would behoove you to remind those people that they're on a website run by someone who has a material and vested interest in the destruction of Ukraine. That they should change to another website.
Unfortunately Twitter is the absolute best source for the most up to date breaking sports news and nothing that I'm aware of comes close.
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If you can't porn from Pornhub because of silly age verification laws. Twitter is the next best place, I guess?
Not all parts of twitter is chock full of Nazis. The parts I follow probably won't ever move over to Mastodon, so I'm stuck with Twitter. The good thing is that part barely has any Nazis.
Good job on brushing everyone on Twitter with the same broad stroke, though. Really shows how progressive you can be.
And this is a site run by developers that purposely and specifically endorses Tankies, yet it's still stupid to call everyone on this site a Tankie.
Because we don't, we kick them out of the circle, that's why there's few of them amongst those I follow. The fact that you can't comprehend such a simple concept is the problem.
The software is partially written by Tankies, but most instances aren’t run by Tankies. Since it is free & open source software under the AGPLv3, anyone can freely use it. Lemmy also uses ActivityPub, an open standard, and is fully compatible with other Fediverse software like Kbin/Mbin and Piefed. Using lemmy.ml or other instances means that you’re associated with Tankies, but using Lemmy the FOSS software doesn’t. Since Twitter is proprietary, the only option is using twitter.com which is run by a Nazi and actively supports Nazis.
The main dev is a Tankie, so not just partially written. And you're missing the point. Even on lemmy.ml there are plenty of non-Tankies. There are reasons for people to be there other than to support the Tankie devs. In the same vein, there are plenty of reason for people to be on Twitter other than to support the Nazis.
Being this pedantic in an effort to defend broad brushing groups of people together when they don't have that much in common is, frankly, pathetic.
Do...you not know how to read? Now that explains things.
No, I meant that amongst the community that I follow, there are few Nazis. At the end of the day, you cannot be sure that there are 0 Nazis in any community that you follow, that's just unrealistic.
You're just being pedantic and making so much mental gymnastics in order to call me a Nazi. That shows just how fucked up your mindset is. You're pretty much trying to demonize a group of people using broken logic to justify your hate. Why are you trying to emulate the Nazi thought process?
So you mean you can demonize Nazis without even knowing what tactics they employ? That means you're just blindly accusing people of being Nazis, like I thought.
So why does your opinion even matter in this case when you clearly admitted to not knowing how to recognize Nazis and their supporters? What a useless conversation this turned out to be.
FYI, Nazis are well known for demonizing a group of people without being able to logically explain their hatred, just like what you're doing now. For someone who claims to hate Nazis, you sure act in a similar vein. Now that you're more educated, I hope you can learn to distance yourself from that kind of thought process.
What was that saying about letting a few nazis into your bar as long as they stay on the side and don't cause trouble?
We don't let them into our bar, that's why the part has so few Nazis. The Nazis are running rampant in other parts of the site, but not on the part that I frequent, from my observation at least. That's why it's stupid to group everyone using Twitter as Nazi adjacent.
Maybe you're just not identifying them as Nazis? What part do you hang out on where there aren't insane propagandists and bots?
Does a Nazi infested group calls out whenever people is being racist or openly makes fun of Elon Musk?
I'm sure you can always just argue that they are being Nazis secretly or something, but to call out a group of people to be suspicious of being a Nazi, I would prefer if you have more proof than just conjecture.