I don't know how to answer two comments at the same time but this is also for @footfaults@hexbear.net , when I say headline, I mean the one from the post, not the one from the newspaper, which is not manipulative, I'm sorry if I haven't expressed myself perfectly, English isn't it's my language.

Regarding the rest of your comment, I would like to say that yes, the Western press has been truly embarrassing for years, but arguments of the type "and your more" have never led any movement anywhere.

[–] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, well I appreciate the comment and I stand corrected. Your meaning in the first comment was a bit ambiguous but on rereading it I can see that it makes sense that you're referring to the post title, not to the article title. That said, the post title is referencing a meme and might make more sense in that context, but it is also not wrong. This war continues to be waged due to the insistence of NATO (essentially the US) that it continue. The opinions or consent of the Ukrainian people is immaterial to those in control, and Ukrainians will keep being sent to fight and die regardless of whether or not the majority of them actually wants to sue for peace or make territorial concessions (a position that is almost certainly being suppressed).

but arguments of the type "and your more" have never led any movement anywhere.

Also immaterial. What I said had nothing to do with leading a movement, it was merely calling a spade a spade and pointing out hypocrisy.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Again I apologize if my expressions are confusing, English is not my native language and I am sorry if my grammar is poor, I understand that it is 100% my mistake.

As for the rest, I know the meme perfectly, and that doesn't make it make more sense, maybe in a hypothetical situation where the surveys gave a different majority opinion of the Ukrainian population what you say would happen, but we are not talking about hypothetical things to make jokes about, we are talking about real surveys that say the opposite of the meme that heads this post .

I think there are plenty of arguments against the war, against the actions of the USA and against the shipment of weapons without having to justify false jokes

In any case, thank you for being kind in your reasoned response, not everyone has had that education with a dissenting opinion.