Recently cult of the dead cow came out with veilid, a secure decentralised way of sending encrypted information and i think this could be a huge asset to lemmy. Cult of the dead cow even mentions mastadon by name as they say this is the type of application it was designed for. If veilidchat takes off then i really hope the devs will consider it.

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[–] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it not possible to use both at the same time? They're both network protocols but surely they operate on different levels, ActivityPub is the social networking protocol and Veilid would be the method of distribution within that protocol. I'm new to all this stuff so i could definitely be wrong

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I see what you mean. Uuuh, doable I suppose, but then again, why bother when it's going to be encrypted in transit anyways (HTTPS and all) and both the sender and the recipient naturally have to be able to read it do to anything with it.

This protocol sounds more like something for torrenting or so, so that you could seed a file without knowing what it contains and hence have plausible deniability.

[–] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a really good point and not something i thought of but with https doesn't the server still have the ability to trace users via their IP and could be asked by governments for information? I guess tor is already good enough tor that though

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Plus, ActivityPub is server-to-server, it's one instance pulling data from another. I guess what you mean could be a user accessing their instance but like you say, Tor already covers that.

It could be more relevant for something like the... name escapes me... the instagram fediverse site. Or well some file sharing system of course.

[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 2 points 1 year ago

Your instance would have connection logs for whatever browsers or mobile apps you used, but other instances talk directly to yours and know nothing about you. So use an instance hosted in a jurisdiction you're comfortable with or like you said tor or another basic vpn is plenty to anonymize you.