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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When the political opponents are, themselves, violent domestic terrorists and anti-democratic authoritarians, you’d be a fool to wait until they’re installed in the highest levels of government before taking action.

Except we're not talking about terrorists and anti democratic authoritarians, we are talking about jailing people for the way they vote. You are, by claiming people should be jailed for the way they vote, being the anti democratic authoritarian.

Again, we both agree that trump is a risk and we need to stop him. But jailing people for falling for his rhetoric and commiting the crime of voting makes you a risk to our democracy as well. The only difference I see between you and trump, on this point at least, is you're explicitly espousing it. He's just using a dog whistle.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Except we’re not talking about terrorists and anti democratic authoritarians

We're talking about their donors, their canvasers, and their supporters.

Again, we both agree that trump is a risk and we need to stop him.

We both agree he should be stopped. I'm not sure we agree on actually stopping him. It seems like we're just going to roll the dice on the election and hope for the best, because doing anything else would be unfair to the fascists.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey, listen, who you vote for is your call and I’m not here to judge. Its just an election, I don’t see why you need to make a federal case out of it.

It's clear, even in your own post, that you know we are talking about voters.

It seems like we’re just going to roll the dice on the election and hope for the best, because doing anything else would be unfair to the fascists.

Well, certainly becoming a anti democratic authoritarian seems like a terrible idea to avoid an anti democratic authoritarian. I'm hoping the electorate wakes up and, if it doesn't, the institutions designed to protect us against authoritarianism hold up. I certainly will never get behind jailing people for the crime of voting a way I don't like.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

becoming a anti democratic authoritarian seems like a terrible idea to avoid an anti democratic authoritarian

Don't lift a finger against the lynch mob or you will be no better than the lynch mob.

I’m hoping the electorate wakes up

Maybe they just won't lynch me. Maybe it'll be fine.

the institutions designed to protect us against authoritarianism hold up

Those institutions will be run by the anti-democratic authoritarians you just said you didn't like.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Don’t lift a finger against the lynch mob or you will be no better than the lynch mob.

I'm pretty sure I'm every post you've lied about my position in order to make yours. It's gotta tell you something at this point.