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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

US air travel can be decarbonized by replacing it with electrified passenger rail. Trains with a pantograph don't need to store energy. Nearly all of the challenges of electrifying transportation are already solved and just require the infrastructure to be built.

Air travel should only be used for routes that cannot be serviced by electrified rail.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem isnt r ex ally about pollution, its about how to increase corn production for America.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

America has many problems. A lack of corn isn't one of them.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

E85 was the first big push after "corn fed beef" was everywhere. Then it became sanitizer due to COVID.

Now that all of those are waning, something new IS needed for the industry to maintain its revenue expectations.

Its not about "lack of corn" its more akin to "how much more money can we make off the current volume of corn we push"

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 4 months ago

Guh. Can't I go one day without being reminded that Capitalism is killing us?

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Corn monoculture is at the heart of so many environmental problems, I very much doubt this is a sustainable route forward.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago

No. It can help in transition by lowering carbon emissions and reliance upon fossil fuels, but a product of burning ethanol is still CO2.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bluntly: no.

Burning fuel puts CO2 into the atmosphere. Yes, you might be at close to net zero if it's a biofuel (e.g., the carbon in the atmosphere goes into the corn, when then goes into the airplane and back into the atmosphere), but we need to be at negative carbon, not net zero.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the fuel you were burning was liquid hydrogen, then we'd be okay. But any kind of hydrocarbon, regardless of the source, not so much.

[–] sandalbucket@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Ah, I think there’s a spelling mistake in the title - let me see if I can fix it for you:

Please give more money to the corn lobby

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember, every time you use cropland for not-food, you're worsening food security.

It's not enough that you feeding food to food, and feeding food to cars, now it's about feeding food to airplanes.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But corn subsidies must flow

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

BTW, can rapeseed oil be used for aviation fuel?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably, but soy is the one that's being most converted into hydrocarbons in the US

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, my thought was because of rapeseed oil being used for cars in some parts of the USSR in 70s and 80s.