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I constantly see angry mobs of people decrying "woke", "critical race theory", ""grooming"", and whatever other nonsense they made up this week. They march around with guns, constantly appending lib as a prefix to any word they can use to denigrate. They actively plot violence and spew hatred in the open.

You never see the inverse. There is no ConservativesofTiktok getting churches harassed into shutting down for the day or calling in threats. You don't see cringey boomer memes on the left. And whenever I openly express those feelings, try to create that sentiment; I get shut down. Noone agrees, I'm often shamed and muted. I just don't understand why that parity exists, it's extremely isolating to feel so alone in this

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to make a second comment, from the point of observation bias:

OP obviously knows people who have been attacked by vicious, hateful people on the right. But OP is probably hanging around neither the people on the right being attacked by vicious, hateful people on the left, nor around the vicious, hateful minority of the left who are attacking people on the right.

So she hasn't seen it. But I have. I've been attacked from the right for my progressive views and from the left for my conservative views, and from both by people who assume that if I think A I must also think B and C, no matter how benign A is and horrific C is.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

What conservative views do you hold?

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think there's an equal amount of anger on both sides. Unfortunately.

There's no longer room for actual, mature debate. Just mud-slinging and slurs. The fact is that most people are somewhere in the center politically, but the extremists are louder and get the attention because it's entertaining and the media uses it to sell content. It sucks.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

conservatives especially hate people pretending to be above the fray

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Can't speak for anyone but me on this one. It's the same reason I don't hate anyone, really. We're all unique with completely different perspectives on the world, perspectives that naturally lead us to different conclusions. Me hating someone will only push them into their own world. I'd rather share my perspective, and hope it moves theirs a bit, so that we might reach a better common ground.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I mean plenty of lefty folks hate righties but they hate the ideology and not the people. They hate the people in so much as they hate the ideology they spout and its hate. There is a lot of hate inherent to right ideology but not so much in left ideology. At the end of the day I don't hate any particular person just them pushing things on me or the world that makes either worse. Take the old order anabaptist types like the amish. They are ultra conservative but keep to themselves. Is there bad things in the way their communities run. You betcha. But anyone can leave and sure they will be shunned but otherwise if they accept just not being part of it then they are free of it all. I am sorta losing where I am going with this but hope it helps in some way.

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[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Propaganda. For decades the conservative radio hosts have been vilifying democrats constantly and most of the time for no reason at all. It has slid into television as well but they started with radio a long long time before that.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

most of the time for no reason at all

Not for no reason. It's a form of control. If you genuinely believe that the opposing party is going to bring the country to ruin, you're a lot less likely to consider their position in politics.

Look at the affordable care act. Conservatives hated/hate it because "obamacare" was portrayed as giving free health care to the lazy poor that you have to pay for as a hard working conservative. When asked if we should repeal Obamacare, conservatives poll something crazy like 95% yes, simply because it's a bad word they learned.

Many of those conservatives have health care through the ACA and get mad when Republicans take it away because they need it. Those same conservatives mostly aren't even aware that what they have is literally obamacare.

It's control all the way down.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago
[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago

Because they're mostly a group of people filled with hatred. That's what's uniting them. And the other side less so, so they don't act that way.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hate requires you to consider them first competent with shared common values that inform their beliefs and actions. Otherwise it's mostly pity and disgust that they have no values other than authority and loyalty like a criminal enterprise, and usually can't tell if they are being evil on purpose or by accident/inaction/ignorance.

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[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago

there are definitely cringey liberal boomer memes, they're all on Facebook.

So you feel alone because you want to make cringey boomer memes and send threatening emails to Churches? I'm confused.

There are militant left movements, but there are just fewer people who align themselves with those movements because Communism and Socialism were basically illegal to talk about for decades, and the conservative fascism is basically just our mainstream government ideology (D or R).

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Because liberals aren't assholes?

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago

I’d have to spend time looking through conservative nonsense to make memes about it. I don’t care to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Liberals hate leftists like conservatives hate liberals.

Liberals are a hop and a skip away from being conservatives.

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[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

For starters, Liberals are less violent, desire stability and an uplifting progression in social values, and tend to be fairly comfortable in themselves.

Other than that - when Liberals go far enough left, they become Socialists, and start to hate Liberals for their Capitalist elements and "economic liberalism"/neoliberalism.

When conservatives go far right, they turn into fascist conservatives... Conservatives, just more staunch, violent, and unreasonable.

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

You should really ask the same question - or its inverse - in a conservative forum. If you only ask it here, you’ll get a very skewed answer.

And to be honest, the question itself and the wording shows your bias as well. Whenever something about US politics is posted on Lemmy, there are always comments about how “they” are hate-filled people, how “they” are projecting, how “they” want to rape children. It’s a different expression of that hatred, but it is the same hatred.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better I'm on your side and I get the same whiny milquetoast doormat bullshit from liberals. They think they can get power to abdicate itself by begging, and they think violence is barbaric despite it being the only way things have ever progressed anywhere.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

The right wing has a long history of real repression. Think slavery, segregation, Jim Crow (simply saying it doesn't do it justice), voter suppression, KKK, mob violence, etc. As much as I hate to realize it, they were fundamentally built on violence and hate. It's never left them. Especially the mentality, which is "my way or violence".

This is also why they project the left is violent. Because they are, so they assume everyone else is too. So they try to portray left groups as violent. Same with having an agenda. They have one, so they assume everyone else has one too. It's all projection.

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