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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15144297

Consumers have embraced 'Buy Now, Pay Later' products that allow them to pay for purchases in installments, but it's not clear how many of these loans are out there.

Paywall removed: https://archive.is/9SYHz

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[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I assume they're complaining about this "phantom debt" that they can't see? It's behind a firewall, so they're hiding the article where I can't see. /s

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

BNPL (Buy Now Pay Later) debts not recorded with credit agencies, so no idea how much.

I have zero idea why this is collapse related but here we are.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Global Financial Crisis 2 is definitely a fast component in the overall collapse process. Unaccounted consumer debt is a useful facet of a diagnostic. We don't know where exactly the spark will originate that will blow up GFC2. It could as well start there, though it's not very probable.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 6 points 3 months ago

So basically Wells Fargo can’t deal with layaway?

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wells Fargo estimates that there's about $46 billion dollars in phantom debt, and that's just from "Buy Now, Pay Later.” And that's just in the US alone.

[–] melisdrawing@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That is insane. It implies over $100 in debt to BNPL per capita.