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Bro, I think you have a tanky kink. For every tanky I actually see, I swear I see five or more posts from you complaining about them.
Just admit it: you want to be dominated by tankies so your asshole can be nationalized for the good of the people.
Edit: I am joking!
I wanna be rolled over by a tank after reading this.
I'm sure some tankies would oblige if you ask nicely.
There is a push by alt-right types to claim tankies are the alt-right of the left:
Which completely overlooks how limited and deenergized tankies actually are.
Same Marx letter: “While the workingmen, the true political powers of the North, allowed slavery to defile their own republic, while before the Negro, mastered and sold without his concurrence, they boasted it the highest prerogative of the white-skinned laborer to sell himself and choose his own master, they were unable to attain the true freedom of labor, or to support their European brethren in their struggle for emancipation; but this barrier to progress has been swept off by the red sea of civil war.”
Unfortunately it wasn’t actually swept off, instead of “at least we aren’t slaves” it’s “at least we aren’t the periphery” that became the boasted prerogative making core country labor feel like it has more investment in the system and more to lose than it actually does, and keeping them demanding anti-immigration and anti-trade and bombs to maintain hegemony.
Sun Yat Sen is actually known to have also came to the conclusion that Lincoln was some degree of Proto/Para Socialist leader, his map for the Republic of China was based in part off that impression of Lincoln and his political theories and policies.
Mao was a pretty big fan of the US as well until they didn't give him weapons. Then It was all "ok buddy Stalin"
Castro and Ho Chi Minh as well, Castro was actually receiving American support initially before he got cut off, IIRC either because he was being a bit "too" revolutionary for his backers' liking or because Bautista negotiated his way back into America's good graces.
Ho Chi Minh had petitioned the US for diplomatic assistance with France, and the US might have been persuaded to provide it until France declared they would switch sides to the Warsaw pact if the US breathed a word of it to them and didn't help them shut it all down (this was after the US had absolutely humiliated them in the Suez crisis and Marshall plan conditioning), before proceeding to shrug and leave the US holding the bag for the mess they made anyways.
tl;dr, God Damn The French!
talk about making up a guy to get mad at lmao
I can never tell when tankies are arguing in bad faith, or legitimately not understanding the point. Not that it really matters in the end, I suppose, lol
Some large number of them are larping facists trying to troll.
Idk who pissed in their cheerios but they're going wild with shit memes about something
picture of Israelis using USA supplied arms to murder children
PugJesus: "look at these fine liberals stopping fascism and upholding democracy "
I mean Hamas got into power in Gaza by winning a plurality of the votes and then permanently "suspended elections" after that. And they talk a lot about past humiliations and wanting to restore the ethnic makeup of the region to the way it was in history books by ethnically cleansing Jews.
Whatever you might feel about Israel, Hamas covers pretty much every square on the fascist bingo card.
That's just a variant of the "We invaded Iraq to free them from the murderous dictator Saddam Hussein" argument of Republicans which sounds great until you notice that the 1.2 million deaths caused by the American invasion (around 140 thousand directly killed) massivelly dwarf the total of deaths caused by Saddam in his entire time in power.
Giving them the "peace of the grave" isn't quite the "good deed" that one might thinking if fixated on the word peace.
Then there's of course the small detail that Israel itself was subsidizing Hamas (curiously, just like the US was doing for Saddam originally) so the whole idea that what they're doing now is really helping Palestinians, beggars belief.
After Iraq, that line of "argument" is beyond the "fool me once shame on you" stage and well into "fool me twice shame on me".
I wonder if they'd be extremists if they weren't in such extreme conditions.
I'm pretty sure that had it been already fashionable back then for the powerful to use the word, the Résistance Française would've been called "terrorists" by the Nazis in occupied France.
I don't like Hamas either also never mentioned them.
Just concerned with the fascist state next door that's committing a genocide and the American government's support of them in that genocide.
Those elections were for the West Bank too. They decided to stop holding elections because Israel blocked them from taking their place. At that point, why have elections?
There are local elections in the West Bank. There aren't national elections because holding a national election in the West Bank only would be an admission that Gaza is a separate territory from the West Bank, so there would no longer be just one Palestine.
Well yeah, because West Bank is still controlled by the party Hamas beat in elections. The party that was beat because they're an Israeli puppet.