Except you have to wait 5 seconds before it goes brrrr because of snaps.
Yikes, I forgot about the All-Snap Ubuntu Desktop!
Oh snap
You can turn them off, but good luck keeping firefox up to date.
Yeah but at this point you're fighting against the OS, might as well switch to a distro that already works the way you want.
and apt is awful.
Man, why do people hate apt so much? Maybe because I'm a filthy casual but I never really had any big problems with apt.
Compared to Pacman it's very slow. I had several problems when I used it. but if it's good for you, then use it.
If you think apt is slow you've never used dnf.
Correct, apt is awful, apt-get, that's what you need. ;) You really need to tell apt not to install junk:
$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00NoJunk
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
I hate yum with a passion, but still wouldn't touch dnf when I have an alternative. As it earns my keep (alas, no deb based distro at work... yet), I've managed to hide all that perfectly in scripting/config management setups.
Ubuntu ain't what it used to be. If you want a simple distro nowadays just go straight to the source with Debian. There's no real benefit to going with Ubuntu anymore, and community distros are just a safer bet. Corporate distros aren't your friend.
You're mid-curve now. Ubuntu's better than ever.
Distros based on Ubuntu are better than ever. Ubuntu isn't the move tho
I'm very happy with debian. So many applications ship a .deb, and you don't have to deal with the Canonical bullshit.
Ubuntu go brrrrr.
This sort of stuff always makes me wonder....WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ALL USING YOUR OS FOR?. All I want my OS to do is hold my files, execute my programs and stay the hell out of my way. What could people possibly be doing with their OS that makes version and distro wars worth more than two seconds of your life? Its like arguing about which calculator or plain text editor is best. I dont care. It adds the numbers, it changes the letters, as long as it isnt doing anything else: who cares.
Once you have lived through library dependency hell, you care
as long as it isnt doing anything else: who cares.
That's a big part of the distro discussion. Ubuntu for example forces snaps down your throat if you don't pay attention, which usually leads to issues down the line.
Some people are more extreme in that regard and want their system to do absolutely nothing they haven't explicitly configured. And there's a distro for everyone.
Its like arguing about which calculator or plain text editor is best.
it's obviously emacs
Ubuntu today is pretty trash. I'd replace it with fedora today
Yup, you're in the middle of the bell curve
No seriously I always install Ubuntu on work machines and they got more breakage in the past couple of years than my arch machine.
Would be true if canonical didn't screw up so much lately. Fedora is the go to for many now
Why not any other Debian based
Debian based? So just Debian then
Debian IS based 😉
probably off topic but temple OS is definitely the best OS in the universe
Eh, I've been around the block at this point. Fedora ftw. Simple, easy, GUI installer, "just works"™️, sane package manager, normie default DEs, stable, corporate backing. Maybe not for a purist or enthusiast, but I don't have time for that stuff anymore anyways. My days of pouring hours into getting my Arch install just right are long past me. That was for when I still had free time.
China spyware distro best distro
Install openKylin now
glory to the CPP, I love Winnie the Pooh
I am and always will be the left Ubuntu user
Arch is good for a machine that gets used a lot, but for something where you need stability or to be able to run it for a long time between restarts and updates, something Debian-based is preferable. Just not modern Ubuntu because Snaps are performance-sapping nightmares.
But with Arch you have to pay attention whenever you update or else you brick your whole system. Ask me how I know.
I've decided it's not worth my time trying to figure it out. I just use KDE Neon and press the "check for updates" button. Don't get me wrong - I know my way around a terminal - but honestly it's just not worth my time anymore. Just give me a thing that works without me needing to think about it.
This is honestly a timeline for me instead. Started out with Ubuntu, Debian, Elementary, Peppermint; then did Kali for a while for work, then moved on to Antergos, Arch. I eventually got tired of my system breaking every few weeks, and now settled with Mint for the time being because I don't have the time to maintain a bleeding-edge distro and I just need something that works when I turn it on.
Ubuntu was good until it went all corporate and scummy. Now I run Endeavor OS(Arch btw)
'buntu looks pretty but doesn't brr. Mint goes proper BRRR
Fedora ist the best of two worlds.
I used Fedora as my main for over a decade, but now I question the future of Fedora with all the crap IBM is pulling.
Time to go to Linux Mint
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
10 years Arch and going...
Arch is the best.
Ubuntu is lame. OP conveniently missed LM (desktop users) and Debian (servers)
Is it just me, or are the more active posters here actually Windows refugees who haven't used Linux for too long?
My first foray into Linux was Pop OS since I read it was a good beginner distro... eventually I got frustrated with the amount of programs I tried to install that were way out of date if installed through Ubuntu.. having to add repositories was annoying and they weren't even the latest versions. I then switched to EndeavourOS and I've been happy! I know arch isn't considered a "beginner" distro, but I've found it quite stable.
I use Arch btw
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