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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’ll believe “no one is above the law” when he gets a year of prison time per conviction. Until then, it’s safe to assume there is one set of laws for us plebs and another for rich, white fascists.

Not holding my breath for anything remotely resembling justice.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The maximum penalty in NY for one of those 34 felonies is 4 years in prison. So, 136 years total, if served consecutively, 4 years if he can serve them at the same time. I bet he doesn’t even get a day, or a fine he actually pays.

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

First conviction, they'd be concurrent and highly unlikely he'd get max time. However, this is a first conviction, breaking the glass ceiling for convicting an ex president, in the weakest of the four current trials. Sentences become more likely to be jail up to minimum guaranteed imprisonment for some time, because of sentencing guidelines, as well as the terms getting longer for each conviction.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We’ll find out if justice is dead, or if she was just on vacation and turned off her phone.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When you are disappointed, try to remember that we want a justice system that is light on first offenders, and that most other people you wouldn’t want to get the max sentence.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think that when we are punishing a first time offender, we have to consider the motivation Behind the crime. Was it just to get rich? I think that’s something we can all understand. But was it to cover up treason? I don’t think something like that comes with any leniency.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was no different than fucking Clinton lying about getting a blowjob in office.

Dude cheated on his wife and was trying to hide it to get elected.

Nothing illegal about that.

Just like with Clinton and Nixon though, it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup.

I think you might be conflating this with the election interference case, similar but different.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would you like to explain why you chose to use treason there?

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If the purpose of the crime committed is nefarious, then I think the punishment, regardless of a first time offender, should be appropriate.

Let’s say I’m convicted of trying to cover up hush money. If that money was used to silence someone from telling the world about me breaking the speed limit, it’s not a “big deal.”

But if I’m trying to cover up something big… like an act that is potentially another felony… than it’s a big deal.

Does that make sense?

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 5 months ago

Ok, it just seemed like you were saying this amounted to treason.

I wasn’t sure, that’s why I asked nicely. 😊

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What would happen if I were to......oh, I don't know........use maps from the 2020 election results to find cities that voted exclusively trump. From there use census data to show which areas in these cities have the densest population. Then use google maps to search those areas for large apartments. Then go to that building, go to the lobby, and take pictures of their mail slots, so I know which apartments have which names. Now go back home, and I fill this website out like 700 times so that everybody in that building gets an unrequested sticker?

What would happen if I did that?

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Boy you lost your damn mind

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

You'd be a hero. Well, at least to me. I love this idea.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

What would happen is I would require you to also send a fly to sit on the wall in said apartments so we can enjoy the fallout together

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would rather have a sticker that just says "34 > 45" than one that has that punchable fucking face on it.

[–] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I wonder if his prison sentence will end similar to Epstein, or it has a Trump twist. I imagine a scenerio where a guard "accidentally" drops the key infront of his cell, the cameras are off, and every guard is distracted, but he still manages to fuck up and get lost inside the prison. Resulting in a comical yet massive prison escape, as he attempts to swoon the prisoners with freedom, in exchange for their loyal support, which is basically finding the exit.