Mhm i can imagine that GrapheneOS will be marked as an illegal OS once Interpol and others get wind of this kill switch.
this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2024
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The people Interpool is after don't need Duress. They simply refuse to give out their password. Current Pixel and iPhones phones cannt be cracked with forensic tools. https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/12848-claims-made-by-forensics-companies-their-capabilities-and-how-grapheneos-fares
Doubt it, wouldn't they just clone the flash first?
irreversibly wipe the device
And for anyone to actually go through the trouble of cloning a flash chip, you'd have to be an extremely high profile target.
Who the fuck do you think interpol are targeting? Lmao
That may be useful
Wonder if this say a big "WIPING..." and shows a blank profile then.
Because it would be much more useful if this would erase real profile and then quickly switch to some fake profile looking real.
It doesn't say anything. It shuts the device down almost instantly, and simulnateously wipes the encryption keys from the secure element, ensuring that the data stored on the SSD can't be decrypted.
Long overdue
Why didn't you contribute this feature sooner then?
I'm maxed out on open source contributions myself right now as maintainer of a large project
... and I've been told I'm demanding and entitled, but here's some jackass who downvoted one(@ryannathans) who is doing the work. You or I can never do enough to be worthy to request certain features or bug-fixes be given higher priority.
These people need to go back to Spez's, Musk's, or Zuck's playground, since they love having no say so much.
Cool feature, I wonder if a duress fingerprint will be introduced in the future?
I feel like that would be a lot easier to accidentally trigger.
You're not wrong, but like the duress pin, it would be a nice feature to have. Not everyone would have to set a duress fingerprint, just the people who find value in it.
You would not believe how much I have lost from being obsessed with high-threat modeling for my low-threat life. $10k and family videos for a start.
Sometimes it's a good idea to protect the community from itself lol.
Don't leave us hanging. How did it happen?
Writing down a crypto wallet key in a self hosted password manager on a highly encrypted self hosted drive which degraded. Pretty much the same with the photos, if I didn't encrypt my backups I would have been able to recover more files.
Oh yikes.
I got out of crypto stuff long ago. But I was so paranoid with losing wallet keys that I'd put them everywhere in chunks, like a medieval quartered body spread all over Scotland.
something something destruction of evidence
What evidence?
Alternately, it could unlock the phone while also erasing specific parts of it, like message history and call logs, potentially replacing them with something you'd set up previously.
Edit: and obviously it would disable the duress pin and set the unlocking pin to it.
Depends on what you did! Say for example they're using Graphene to harass/paedophilia then they already have a copious amount of evidence on hand since they are there.
For organising peaceful protests that seems less of an issue and the other end of the chats is the weak link.
Very nice