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Why are most of the posts here heavily downvoted? (lemm.ee)

submitted 5 months ago by McLoud@lemm.ee to c/conservative@lemm.ee

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Why would you visit the "conservative" section just to downvote everything? I don't get it.

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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

I downvote posts if they're idiotic.

Communities about idiotic ideologies tend to attract idiotic posts.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'd guess most voting come from people browsing all communities. That's how I found your post.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social 0 points 5 months ago

@marcos @McLoud This makes sense, #Lemmy leans to the left

[–] Alice@hilariouschaos.com -4 points 5 months ago

Decent

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because conservatism is a dog whistle for cartoon villainry.

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

I did a quick scan and the more misleading and fear mongering posts are downvoted, the news type posts seem upvoted.

Maybe be specific in asking which posts you're concerned about getting down votes? Otherwise I'm going with my general answer here.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 months ago

Everything isn't downvoted. Sort this community by upvotes and you'll see there are a handful that are positive. You can do the same with the people who post here. Go to their history and sort by most positive. All of them have positive comments and posts.

It's the content that's being downvoted. Not the community or the users.

[+] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's deliberate. On the lemmy.world version of this sub, every time I would post a conservative story, another user would post something progressive, and then my post would get buried and no one would ever see it or interact with it. Why post if no one ever sees it?

I started this sub to get around that, literally so people would see the conservative posts and talk about them. Sometimes you learn something, sometimes it forces you to actually research your position, sometimes you see another slapfight. Much better than nothing.

If you want to start a sub of your own, just be warned, modding is filled with horrible judgement calls, and until you figure it out, you will fuck it up constantly.

[+] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Rather than focus on the visibility of your content, maybe the problem is the content itself?

Oh I'm sure it's the content and the community. Some communities don't like certain types of content, and I knew this coming in. I don't mind the downvotes.

I’m trying my hardest to adhere to the rules of the community, and appreciate not getting permabanned yet

I appreciate that. We try to not to perma ban unless you evade another ban, most everything else is a shorter ban, one week to a month sort of bans.

But you’ve gotta see all you’ve done is create an echo chamber for content people aren’t actually interested in or aren’t buying.

I'm aware, but at the same time, lemmy as a whole is a big echo chamber, just in the other direction. By adding another echo going the other way, it helps dilute both echo chambers.

Those are two valid reasons for having a community and I’m glad you have a space, but I don’t see how it accomplishes anything besides appease your desire to see your posts stay elevated in thread.

Not going to lie, that's was the primary reason, but now we have multiple regular posters, Neuromancer, kaboom, among with a few others, and we have regular commenters like Boba and Satan that show up fairly often. It's no longer my personal blog anymore, it's grown into a tiny little community of it's own. I think that's worth something at least.

If I post an article from a pro-conservative site that can be easily disproven as either lies or misinformation, what’s the conversation of value to be had there?

You can prove it wrong in the comments, and it allows any conservatives to look at the proof, and maybe think to themselves "Hey, I was lied to about this, what else was I lied to about?" And the same thing goes for progressives, everyone gets lied to and mislead.

Hell, the main thing that lead me becoming a conservative was me finding out I was lied to by the news, and I started looking for primary sources, recordings, photos, studies, a bit of history, that sort of thing.

[–] Alice@hilariouschaos.com -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In what ways or what's considered, "fucking it up" ? Agree with your comment btw

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

When I first started, I was really anxious about not being a power tripping mod that I basically didn't mod. It got to the point admins from other instances were stepping in, and that just wasn't a good thing. The slap-fights were always an escalating thing, with no clear instigator, and I never did figure out if I should ban and who to ban. That was more of me specific issue, trying way too hard to be a good mod and making it worse.

Another thing was trying to figure out what actually counted as a conservative post, turns out theres a lot of gray area, and I fucked it up a couple times. That gray area killed me.

An easily avoidable mistake I made was the nazi ban. I should have banned name calling in general, but I wanted a clear keyword ban with zero gray area.

Those are the big three mistakes I made.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

What is conservative is a hard one since it’s varied. Personally the culture war isn’t that interesting to me but may conservatives are interested in it. I find the fiscal policies more interesting but many conservatives are less interested in those.

[–] Alice@hilariouschaos.com -1 points 5 months ago

Understandable

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@McLoud I get the impression that this community is mostly left wingers either angrily downvoting posts, angrily downvoting comments, or angrily replying to the right wing/far right articles that get posted here. I kinda get an r/AskTrumpSupporters vibe from this community, with the exception that the right wingers here seem to be markedly more intelligent.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you ever consider the possibility that anger is the appropriate response to certain situations? For example, if someone passed a law that prevented you from receiving medical care, that would warrant anger.

[–] Alice@hilariouschaos.com -5 points 5 months ago

Let me ask you the same question. What do you think is the reason in your opinion ? Not starting a fight here, just want to know what you think.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because lemmy is small, so the natural brigading that comes from everyone being able to see all the posts means smaller/unpopular communities will have these natural downvote noise. I see this in monero, linus tech tips, communities all the time. There are people with a axe to grind, and rather then blocking a community they just want to be negative. it brings them joy, so be it.

Lemmy would benefit from community tools, like requiring participation before votes count, or posting karma, etc.

Growing small communities should be a priority for lemmy