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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope the 'Hamas would throw you off a building' people will see this

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thing is, throwing someone off of a building is impossible to hide, if Hamas ever did it we would have a video of it posted under every twitter post, this propaganda is literally just racism applied from whatever ISIS or other extremists groups were doing.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Homosexuality is a capital offense in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. The method of execution is by stoning rather then building throwing.

The throwing people off of buildings line was the preferred method by ISIS. But that doesn’t mean that other Islamic countries don’t commit similar horrific crimes under religious extremism.

Guess where homosexuality is also illegal! Israel of course! The paragon and bastion of freedom and democracy, which will kill everyone in its path regardless of identity.

But Hamas is even more evil! They have thrown millions of gay people off of buildings in the past year alone despite there not being a single shred of evidence of anything like that ever occurring!

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Homosexuality is a capital offense in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan

And each of those countries has a certain malicious actor(s), which has either guided its path down such a reactionary Islamist road, or left no other substantial unifying forces for the people to fall back on available (re: Iran).

I'm sure the Hashemites and the aspirations of the pan-Arab secularists, Mossadegh and the Tudeh party, poor Dr. Najibullah and the Afghan socialists, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and (for all her faults) his daughter Benazir, and now Imran Khan and the PTI are all incredibly grateful for Uncle Sam and its rabid British bulldog's assistance.

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Yep, when Israelis were like Pakistan is expelling afghans from their country, why can't we.... They were being disingenuous and hiding the fact that America had supported a fascist military coup there just the year before. Imran Khan was going to give them citizenship.

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

There are no buildings left to throw anyone from.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait? I thought Israel was woke fash?

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For example Israel will not issue marriage certificates for gay couples. All gay Israels have to travel abroad to get a marriage certificate to be considered legally married.

Also if you thought they treat gay Israelis, just wait till you hear about what they do to gay Palestinians in Israel.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What happens to gay Palestinians?

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

If Palestinians have zero rights, gay Palestinians have negative rights. They commonly get lynched.

[–] vaguevoid@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

War is utter hell, and this is heartbreaking beyond belief. I hope that he made it out safely.

[–] m5rki5n@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fuck that's heartbreaking. Double for me because having a girlfriend and living in Ukraine reinforces pretty hard the fear of losing loved ones, but I can't even imagine how awful it is in Gaza where it's 10-100 times worse than here...

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope both of you are safe. That’s horrible that you have that stress hanging over you, and I hope that neither of you will have to suffer through that loss. I hope with all my heart that you’ll make it through.

[–] m5rki5n@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you so much, comrade! While it is stressful, especially for her, and I have no doubt the psychological impact won't be fun, we are in a pretty safe spot compared to the region of the country we fled from. It's much safer and not as dangerous and we hope it stays that way.

[–] dmnknf@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We don't see a lot of Ukrainians around here. Do you think Ukraine will surrender to Russia and try to maintain most of its territories, or will it fight until the last Ukrainian dies and lose a lot more? I know for u to be under russian control would be hell too as they are conservative homophobics.

It's such a shame the West made Ukraine refuse the early negotiations where they would maintain most of their land. A lot of people would still be alive, and China, the EU, and China would guarantee the deal...

[–] m5rki5n@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Sorry if I confused any of you, should've clarified that I'm straight, now I feel kind of shitty because I probably tricked a lot of people into thinking otherwise. Not that only LGBTQ+ people can comment under the post, but still.

Saying that, because of the mobilisation, male population is still under a shit ton of pressure in Ukraine, only multiplied if you're queer, but I don't think much will change under Russia's rule, if there will be one. For liberals, Ukraine might appear as western rainbow utopia where LGBTQ+ people are widely accepted, but considering how many Nazis are here... I have my fair share of doubts about this perspective.

People are so confused, in fact, that in my university I have a person, who is an open Bandera supporter, while being gay and friends with a Jewish girl. Pretty crazy mind fuck if I ever saw one.

If we're talking about the future of Ukraine, man, I just want all of this to end as fast as possible. I don't care whether it be Russia or Ukraine, because at the end of the day, what's the difference? (except that Russia is anti-west, sort of, and Ukraine is pro-west)

I wish we took that deal at the start, many people would still be alive, economy and morale wouldn't be so fucked and I probably could've returned home, now I'm not sure about that no more.

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

Stay safe comrade.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

May they both rest in peace

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is ironic how Pax Americana mainstream news condemn violence by "terrorists" with the claim that violence is never the solution, but then justify violence against every civilians in a region in the context of "anti-terrorism". I read that the last Russian Czar had started the Russian civil war against the Communists from the indiscriminated killing of civilians who came to hear his reform. Is Pax Americana repeating the same evil act as the last Russian monarch? The Pax Americana's policy of anti-terrorist terrorism against civilians could prove that the USA and Liberals do not care about massacre and it provide one more evidence to China's claim that the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre was staged by NATO terrorists and not the people's liberation army of Communist China. Another irony is that the Liberals claimed that they ended the cold war by convincing the Soviet dictator to "follow" the Liberal principle of mutual cooperation for mutual interest when the anti-terrorist terrorism proved that the Liberals had never practiced pacifism in reality.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Liberals are no different from fascists because more often than not they're just fascists with masks.

Any liberal that condemns revolutionary violence on the grounds of pacifism and doesn't condemn the violence that made that revolutionary violence necessary in the first place isn't just a hypocrite but is actively insulting the intelligence of everyone around them.

The difference between conservatives and liberals is that the latter thinks you're too stupid to notice they're the same thing.