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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago

For Williams, the cash value of her policy along with the $260 she had saved in her checking account pushed her over SSI’s $2,000 limit on how much a recipient is allowed in savings and other assets.

That $2,000 asset limit hasn’t changed since 1989. If it had kept up over 51 years with inflation, it would be $10,000 today.

We need to get away from these hard limits that aren't automatically updated.

It takes a fight every time, and we're spread thing because moderates are fighting the progress along with Republicans.

They want things to suck until just one becomes a rally cry, then the do anyone time adjustment and demand we call them the next FDR while they call us whining kids just because we're under retirement age

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 weeks ago

If you really want things locked, lock it to Congressional salaries.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The crazy thing is the SSI is automatically updated but the asset limit is not. Now, 2-3 months of SSI puts you over the asset limit

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

As far as I know, the only thing that gets raised annually is the exception limit for when you stop having to pay into it.

Think it's like 138k now, but it does go up a few thousand each year.

But the system wasn't set up for such rampant wealth inequality where some make millions and most make less than 50k.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That’s Social Security. You don’t pay into SSI

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

There's technically just one thing, OASDI, and about 80 years ago moderate Dems said FDR had to wait another year or two before they could add universal healthcare for everyone, so that's why it's confusing.

For almost a century it's been expanding just enough for people to say we're make ng progress and can't ask for more.

I hate using a PDF as a link, so at least heres the search summary:

SSDI is part of the federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program, commonly known as Social Security. OASDI benefits are based on an insured worker's career-average earnings in jobs covered by Social Security and designed to replace a

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44948

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Your source claims you need to earn OASDI through buying in as a worker. That gives you Social Security (SSDI).

It then delineates SSI as a different program, without listing any buy-in requirements.

So, what I said but with extra words? Still different programs

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The Social Security Administration (SSA) is responsible for administering two federal entitlement programs established under the Social Security Act that provide income support to individuals with severe, long-term disabilities: Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). SSDI is a work-related social insurance program authorized under Title II of the act that provides monthly cash benefits to nonelderly disabled workers and their eligible dependents, provided the workers accrued a sufficient number of earnings credits during their careers in jobs subject to Social Security taxes. In contrast, SSI is a need-based public assistance program authorized under Title XVI of the act that provides monthly cash payments to aged, blind, or disabled individuals (including blind or disabled children) who have limited assets and little or no Social Security or other income. In 2017, SSDI and SSI combined paid an estimated $199 billion in federally administered benefits to 14.5 million qualified disabled individuals and 1.5 million non-disabled dependents of disabled workers. SSDI is part of the federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program, commonly known as Social Security.

Social Security = OASDI

SSI is part of social security.

So saying::

That’s Social Security. You don’t pay into SSI

Is like saying:

That’s a rectangle. You don’t pay into squares.

We pay into OASDI if we work. Some of that is for retirement stuff, but part of what we pay funds the other parts you don't need to pay into to get benefits from.

Like I said tho, it makes sense when you realize 80 years ago OASDInwas meant to be universal healthcare and a retirement fund. Unfortunately "moderate" Dems and Republicans united to block FDR against the will of voters. And for almost a century things have been tweaked, but they still say we can't have universal healthcare.

So OASDI is just "the bare minimum to avoid riots".

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You are not eligible for SSDI unless you pay into it. Anyone can be eligible for SSI.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

And the two of them are both parts of social security...

It's a square rectangle thing.

But it's not a big deal

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

Something similar happened to my husband about 20 years ago. He has ssdi, and can only work a certain amount of hours a month. He tried one month to see if he could do full time work. Nope, impossible.

And so gets kicked off ssdi, and had to fight to get back on it. And they charged him for being on it...by deducting the money he now 'owed' them from the new ssdi. It was stupid.

The laws in place are also why my husband is husband in name only. If we ever actually got married, goodbye everything keeping him alive! It sucks.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

So he only gets to keep ssdi if he is legally single? If you were to actually marry he loses it and what? You have to support him?

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

He can get married. To another "adult disabled since childhood" which I'm not. Otherwise he loses ssdi and medicare/medicaid. I'd have to support him yes, which I can't right now.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

That is so insanely stupid. I cannot fathom how they came up with that.

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