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You got me so good. Been using fedora for a few years now and I've been hesitant to hop to silverblue but now, after reading your issues with it I might just have to stay away. I can't imagine a world of painless updates and rebasing smoothly. If I don't have things to troubleshoot what else am I gonna do on my PC!

Oh man. I'm so sorry for your loss. May your system break at some vague point in the future in a way that is nigh impossible to diagnose and that no one else seems to have experienced. Godspeed, you unwillingly content penguin!

I'm honestly so trolled, I hate change & hate the idea that something might be better than my existing Arch install. I hate that security, reliability, and flexibility are improved. I cope by reminding myself that I'm very low on disk space right now, for the needed extra partitions

What an horror ! What are you gonna do ? Use your working system ? That's sad...

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I'm a bit behind on these immutable distros and have a small question. People keep saying you can just switch to another image if you want to switch desktop environments. But how does this solve the problem of the config files of the various DEs (GTK rc files or other theme stuff) messing with each other in the home directory? Because this was always a pain in the ass in normal distros

Is this a First Linux-World Problem? :D

To me, I like how clean and coherent GNOME looks like, but what I don't like about it, is how hostile it is in regarding of themeing/coloring.

I rebase quite often, its the better distrohopping.

Have a look at Fedora Discuss, interesting things there.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/119216

Love the irony, but this is painting a little too good a picture

Every update is just… meh. Smooth, new, fresh system not affected by my stupid tweaking and breaking

Most times yes, but major updates usually cause some trouble, like from 39 to 40, you couldn't do it without uninstalling the codecs for Firefox. Firefox that is installed by default as an RPM, because the Flatpak Firefox doesn't yet have 100% compatibility with all the features that work with the RPM, so as a user you're pretty much led to get yourself stuck in this hole, not too difficult to fix in the end, but still a pain to find out and fix.

Everything else is 100% true! And I think it will be always hard to beat as an implementation of immutability (second place only to NixOS imo), A/B partitioning doesn't hold a candle to OSTree

Congratulations. You have completed Linux. Please prepare a usb installer for Haiku to move on to the next step of your jouney.

I really love Fedora Kinoite. Like you said, everything just works. It's fantastically boring

Agreed. Been super boring and stable on Aurora.

AAMOF, I install Fedora Kinoite (Like silverblue but KDE plasma) to people coming from windows, first GNU/Linux Experience.Practically unbreakable. does its work.

Silverblue killed distrohopping for me. Really frustrating.

Then kill it. Distrohop again.

I'm still getting things set for Silverblue to be my baremetal hypervisor distro on my laptop. And by that, I mean giving up on Incus, setting up libvirt, and... everything is working like it should. I wasn't expecting that. Now, I've got to find something else to do with my time.

You need to install a rootkit ASAP.

Two days ago my Mint system got borked by a kernel update. I booted from the grub menu with the prior kernel, and rolled back with Timeshift. Pretty painless. You don't need Atomic/immutable distros for that sort of reliability.

I'm playing with kinoite in a VM, though.

Welcome to the very reason I'll never ever try Silveblue 😄

11 months later …

NixOS looks interesting whoosh sucked into a warp

feels like this post was sponsored by Anne Hathaway

But well, if that helps, look at the bright side: while it's true that it'll almost never give you problems, I think it's true that the time the problems will happen, they will be pretty hard to solve, so it might break very bad. That's great, isn't it?

Don't tell me that this thing just cannot breaks. If that was even possible, that'd be tremendously evil.

Wow I was so confused while reading this haha, got me good there! Happy to hear its working as expected :P

After beginning to wrap my head around atomic immutable OSes, I can't believe they're not the standard for most servers. i can't believe Debian doesn't have an official atomic and immutable version yet, seems exactly like the kind of stability they aim for

And good resources on how to learn to use Toolbox properly?

I'm in the same boat, Kinoite (or rather my own blue build of it) killed my distro-hopping. But fans of Arch might be interested in the upcoming immutable arch-based OS: BlendOS

I've been running Bazzite based on silverblue on my desktop for remote gaming and dockering. Everything was amazing until I started doing some mid-level docker stuff because of the rigidity of the distro.

Podman largely works but since it's rootless it won't have access to mounted drives easily due to SELinux.

Mounting a drive automatically wasn't intuitive either and I ended up editing the /etc/fstab manually.

Setting up a swapfile was also tedious, I needed more than 8GB so I made a 32GB swapfile but I still had to run a sudo command on startup since I'm not really confident with creating a systemd service on an immutable distro.

All in all I should have just gone for Nobara or a regular Fedora but that's because I have a really edge use-case.

That being said I still highly recommend it. It's stable, easy to "rebase-hop" and everything just works well and it's very stable. I'd recommend it for pretty much anyone unless you're going to do some heavy self hosting with multiple HDs.

If installing the surface kernel (kind of necessary for my Surface Go 1) and installing a few appimages didn’t look so difficult, I guess I would already be on Silverblue.

I’m kind of the opposite of OP and just having nightmares about breaking my system 😅

That’s why I’m doing clonezilla backup but I think the custom kernel would be a problem if I reinstall on another non-Surface computer. Maybe I should just go back to the normal kernel before doing a backup..

I had an entirely different experience with Bazzite. It would not boot to Wayland after an update, so I had to boot to xorg, reboot, and then wayland would work, until the last update where Wayland just wouldn't work anymore, so I ended up going back to Fedora Workstation.