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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 99 points 4 months ago (25 children)
[–] soloner@lemmy.world 74 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The more we don't tip the more it becomes normalized. I've stopped tipping all counter service other than bartenders. At first I felt guilty but the more I did it the more it became normal to me.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

What a mindfuck. At one point you/I/we are blindly making assumptions about what the human on the other side of the counter is thinking - or being egotistical enough to believe the employee's transaction with me (and the potential $1) was of any significance to them.

My guess is that the decision makers/consultants at that business are aware of these potential reactions - if they're any good at being greedy, they've dug far deeper. They just play the game of guilt to get the patron to subsidize employee wages.

Because if the tips aren't enough to make ends meet for the employee, it's the customer's fault.

Sometimes I disengage from my personal viewpoint and marvel at the complexity of it all. Using humanity against itself for personal profit without incurring a proportional amount of public disdain. Then I resume being disgusted.

We have sooooo much potential as a community. I would give literally anything (of myself - not of the ones I care about) for a star trek future. But I also like Dune, The Expanse, Foundation....

Final thought - I'm rewatching 2000's battlestar atm and it made me wonder:

If humanity has an AI war and we won - how could we ever prevent someone/some thing creating a new homegrown AI later? We almost have to merge at some level?

Anyways, sorry if you read this. Be well

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 45 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if someone fucked up the code and this worked.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly, there was a bug in the McDonald's order screens that allowed one to remove almost everything from a burger, and get enough negative money to buy another burger with it.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's is so excellent. Good to know QA is non-existent in many facets of life haha

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[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Everyone should get their personal tip app that we can show the person at the counter. “Would you like to give me some tip for buying your goods?”

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Which would be annoying for the cashier who probably had no say in this and probably doesn’t see any of those tips.

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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Put a button for $1 and I'll hit it all day. And I know that ain't the person behind the register deciding, but if I get ice cream for my family and it costs 35 fucking dollars because that's how much fucking things cost these days, I'm not throwing you 15-25% in tip, let's be realistic. Put a $1, $2 option and I honestly think you'll have more luck.

Not to old man this shit, but I scooped ice cream at a restaurant/ice cream place for 5.25 back in 2004. You know how I earned tips? I played a game with customers, let me and the girl I'm working with guess questions about your life and we will give you a free size upgrade. People frequently played along, we had fun, fucked over the owners a bit (they sucked), it was really a win/win.

I was eventually fired.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Honestly? Just accept the social awkwardness of not tipping. Like I'm not tipping unless I'm a regular or you're really good

[–] KrankyKong@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

I've never felt awkward hitting the no tip button. I didn't even realize that people felt it was an obligation for the longest time. I would just hit the "no thanks" button and think nothing about it. I also never got the impression that the person working the register thought any less of me.

I tip delivery drivers and waiters. That's about it.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My issue is the automatic 15-20-25. I go to a deli, they make me four sandwiches, I want to throw you a couple bucks, not fucking 10.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Buying four sandwiches, you’re the one doing that business a favour.

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

I will only give the server a cash tip if its been great sevice, and if the food has been amazing a separate cash tip for the kitchen. Im not giving you a tip for just doing your job. Tips should be for being good at your job, not just doing your job. Thats what your employer is for.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

I can give you a tip: sell the ipad and pay your clerks more

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The way they sneaked up on us was: during the pandemic, I started tipping a dollar or two for take-out because "we're all in this together" and "these are extraordinary times." Then those Clover bastards came through and turned that dollar or two into a baseline 15%.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've seen some that have prefilled tip amounts at 40%? Are you fuckin kidding me? Do you want me to punch you in the face?

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

The crazy thing is, the person who made that decision isn't there for you to be mad at them. It's a perfect example of turning us against one another.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 months ago

My new rule is if I'm swiping the card, I'm not tipping. It's arbitrary, and I'm sure that wait staff could use the cash, but it's gotten unsustainable.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Solution: ipad starts to swivel, do a 360 and walk away

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You plan to walk into the counter? Daring strat, but I can see it freaking out the cashier enough to cancel the tip himself if you also maintain eye contact while walking, like an Oblivion NPC

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Is there an advantage to doing a 360 spin before walking away? It seems easier to rotate 180 degrees before walking away. Less rotations that way and it’s more efficient

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It's an old meme, sir, but it checks out.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No tip. Could be worse, I could just stop coming here.

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