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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 58 points 3 months ago

And Netanyahu rejects it out of hand in 3... 2... 1...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

Just like last time, right?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Charlie Brown’s got a real good feeling about it this time

The issue the other 8 times was surely, he says, that the terms and conditions just hadn’t been 100% hammered out into acceptable details

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This sounds like progress to me though. Each side is slowly coming around the the reality that they can’t dictate the terms to the other side

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Israel can dictate the terms, though. They can just say what they want, and keep killing whether or not Hamas agrees.

I won’t say Hamas is a good partner for peace because they are not. (And, in fact, their violence and corruption is part of why Likud supports them above other much better Palestinian leadership.) But Israel is the issue. No one who is bombing, starving, and displacing millions of people who just want to live and be able to stop suffering can simultaneously complain that their victims aren’t being reasonable enough in the peace process.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did you just both sides genocide?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I don't see OP mentioning genocide.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you just falsely equate Hamas and Palestine?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is the acting representative of Gaza.

Now why do you think it’s good that victims of genocide, who’s demands are “stop killing us”, are realising they can’t get that?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What OP said is that neither side can dictate the other.

Israel wants Palestine and Gaza wiped out entirely. Genocide by a bunch of imperialist asshole who believe being Jewish shields them from criticisms of fascist behaviour.

Hamas wants to kill all Jews in the world. They've mentioned that at least 3 times in their 25 articles about why they're doing what they're doing.

The sooner either side realises they're not going to get what they want the better. However, I don't think that'll happen, because Israel is winning and being supplied with all the shiny toys from the US, and the whole world is just letting them do this.

[–] Zeratul@lemmus.org 1 points 3 months ago

Thank you for your sanity.

I’ll believe it when Bibi doesn’t just summarily ignore it