I installed LineageOS 20 a few days ago and I love it. I wanted to extend my OnePlus 6t lifetime but needed my bank apps so it is not de-googled (yet). I don't know if it because of the custom ROM or just a factory reset but I am trying to run as many as possible foss apps and preparing for a de-googled experience
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For privacy, I thought about running a de googled custom ROM. Then I did some risk assessments of common apps and realized that every app relies on multiple libraries and these libraries all have telemetry. Even major apps that you would think kick down their user data so bit even consider the data being hovered up by the libraries.
This means that there are probably 20+ data agrogators constantly pulling your data unless you don't install a single app on your phone. Next option is a dumb phone, but even the "dumb phones" at the store are just Android with a locked down UI.
I consider it a lost cause at this point.
If you want privacy, buy some land in the mountains, put a big tarp over it, and never leave. :(
If you want more control over the OS to do things that users usually can't do, than it makes sense to root.
install App manager from f-droid. click block all trackers. done.
I am talking about libraries that offload app functions so that the devs don't have to do everything from scratch. The apps will not function without it. That will work for apps that don't rely on those libraries, like a calculator, but if you do use apps that do, you have to choose function vs privacy.
How much data you can control vs how much you will lose is a personal decision, but I bet a lot of people going for privacy do not realize how little they get for the functionality they give up ;)
For example, I don't have a ring camera, but enough of my neighbors do so I don't gain much privacy there. I use add blocker in my browser, but I am still easy to profile due to canvas, browser window size, time if day, etc. I don't have a new car so my car doesn't have cellular uplink, but a third party manages the license plate readers and traffic light cameras for the city and they can sell that data to anyone.
I am talking about libraries that offload app functions so that the devs don't have to do everything from scratch. The apps will not function without it. That will work for apps that don't rely on those libraries, like a calculator, but if you do use apps that do, you have to choose function vs privacy.
How much data you can control vs how much you will lose is a personal decision, but I bet a lot of people going for privacy do not realize how little they get for the functionality they give up ;)
For example, I don't have a ring camera, but enough of my neighbors do so I don't gain much privacy there. I use add blocked in my browser, but I am still easy to profile due to canvas, browser window size, time if day, etc. I don't have a new car so my car doesn't have cellular uplink, but a third party manages the license plate readers and traffic light cameras for the city and they can sell that data to anyone.
Yep, still running LineageOS rooted and with microG (not LOS for microG though)
There are multiple reasons why I'm still doing it, like better privacy and fixing the Quick Access menu in Android 13 I couldn't do without.
I have stopped ROM hopping though compared to a few years ago. I just have to hope the Lineage team continues to do the amazing job they've been doing since Cyanogen died.
I am using CrDroid the last 5 years ( 1 year with google play services, 3 years with microg, 1 year degoogled)
I would like to but I use Samsung devices mostly and they lock down their hardware harder than Fort Knox unfortunately. What are some manufacturers that do allow you to install custom roms on their devices?
Depends, is OxygenOS considered custom? I'm running a rooted and largely (manually) degoogled stock version.
Yes. I wouldn't have if it wasn't that OxygenOS keep killing my background apps.
Yes I'm running a custom ROM. I'm using Cdroid 9.7 on my Poco f3. Xiaomi's hardware is great, but I don't like MIUI too much. Using a custom ROM i can get a experience close to having a Pixel device which is great.
No. I recently tried a couple of custom ROMs, but I went back to using stock MIUI12.
In my case, I don't think the custom ROMs were the issue though. I think Android 12/13 have bluetooth issues.
Daily driver - pixel 7 pro stock
OSRS AFK phone - OnePlus 7 pro LineageOS - haven't really had any issues, like the UI over OxygenOS
Wish I could, my phone manufacturer has the bootloader locked down and I will be using this one until it stops getting security updates. I'll probably switch to Zenfone 8/9 or a mid budget moto eventually as those tend to be unlockable.
I would actually advise anyone not to buy phones where the manufacturer doesn't allow bootloader unlocking (e. g. HMD) or where the phone gets permanently damaged/modified once you unlock the bootloader (e. g. Samsung). The only power a consumer holds is purchasing power, so the more people refuse to buy locked-down hardware, the more incentive there is to offer hardware with unlockable bootloaders.
My personal recommendation would be Pixel phones, due to excellent GrapheneOS support, but their regional availability seems to be limited and the quality of the hardware could be a lot better (e. g. the battery of my Pixel 5 failed just after the warranty period; luckily iFixit provides genuine replacements and I managed to replace it myself, but this replacement wasn't easy and it has become even more difficult with newer Pixel phones).
3 phones from my family, all running CRDroid. Can't stand with MIUI and their trackers.
Redmi Note 4 is the champ here - bought in Sep 2017, almost 7 years old. Used MIUI for the first 15 days to unlock bootloader.
Poco X3 - 2.5 years old. Redmi Note 10 Pro - 1.25 years old.
Still am because miui is shit
A custom ROM? No. An unlocked bootloader, standard ROM, & custom kernel? Yes.
Years ago I played with custom ROM on my android tablet but never on my main phone.
But times change and now I'm checking out LineageOS 20 to see how well it would work for my grandparents. Their phones are no longer supported while still perfectly functional.
Yes, lineage OS without Google. Everytging still works fine, even playstore with Autor store frontend
I'm using Paranoid Android in my Poco F2 Pro , I like more the smoothness and visuals of AOSP against MIUI, especially since A12 when Material You and Monet features were introduced, before only smoothness was my motivation.
Not at the moment. I would love to run lineageOS, etc, but I keep buying phones they don't support, and at this stage, most of the things I used to need rooting for are no longer as necessary for me.