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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/14909762

It seems YT started another attempt at blocking alternative clients. They changed something in their API and both SmartTube and Tubular (NewPipe fork) are completely broken. Apparently it started happening this past week, but we personally just felt it today.

Edit: SmartTube already has an update but still not working for 4K videos it seems. Tubular still not working but it might be due to the upstream (NewPipe) is still working on a fix.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I've been trying for a while now to integrate torrents properly into lemmy, just need more time for testing and demonstration. Torrents really are the only way forward for video content, youtube will just keep getting worse and worse.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting concept. Thought how will it work for mobile users? Uploading there is often costly, both in the limited data plan and battery life.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like most torrents currently... most seeders have lots of HD space and network bandwidth, and are happy to share to the occasional leech as long as the torrents stay alive.

Also there are some mobile clients like libretorrent that can be set to turn on only when plugged in.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Ok, but.. hmm. Do you have statistics on the share between desktop and mobile users? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think most browse lemmy from a phone. Most torrents work fine because most torrenters do that on a PC, but relatively very few on a phone. I'm honestly interested if you have some info on that.

In any case, I hope it works out because I would love if it would. Thanks for your work!

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The same is happening with NewPipe.

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dang... yep, experiencing the same... Finally. It had lasted for so long...

[–] Nima@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago

they're working on a fix. don't order a coffin just yet.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, my kid got to see a bunch of ads today.

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

sounds horrible, yesterday I couldn't watch a video on Tubular so I just didn't watch it.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Me, today. But with newpipe. YouTube isn't a necessity. It's an entertainment. The moment it becomes too annoying to use, is the moment we stop using it. That's how entertainment products work... or should work.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Except it's not only entertainment. There's tons of the useful kind of content too, including repair videos.

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Freetube on desktop has been working somewhat being able to switch to invidious. But for Android I've fallen back to Firefox + Ublock Origin + Sponsorblock.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 7 points 4 months ago

freetube has an android app as well. it's in beta but it's been working pretty well for me.

it's worth giving a shot.

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I am yet to find an alternative for AndroidTV.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

If you have iOS and airplay support you can use safari to airplay YouTube to the TV. I use the 1blocker and sponsorblock extension for safari.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried SmartTube? I'd say that's what most people use on Android TV to get rid of ads.

https://smarttubeapp.github.io/

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's broken too fam ... I'm in shambles

(Okay, actually, I'm fine... But it is annoying)

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh sorry, thought the question was about finding an app in general.

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[–] codenul@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Had some issues with Free tube last couple days. Free tube came out with an update, 0.21.1 and fixed the loading issue, at least for me

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah was happy to see it solved in only a day.

[–] treasure@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago
[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Will this be how I'll finally be able to ditch the last Google service I'm still using? That would be a win for me.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 months ago

This is a regular occurence. Google breaks the newpipe extractor > Devs take 2-3 days > Its fixed and working > repeat every few weeks/months

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 4 months ago

Interesting that right now on the same home network all the same apps still work on my phone but not on the Chromecast anymore (I watch mostly on TV.

[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My working theory is that it has something do with YT trying to add ads directly in to the stream. This messes up timestamps and other metadata about the video and these clients don't know how to deal with it yet.

[–] treasure@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the case of Tubular (a NewPipe fork), the issue is getting code 403 (Forbidden), which prevents playing the video. It occurred sporadically while playing videos for some time but could always be fixed with a restart. Now this occurs at the very start while trying to play a video for all people at the same time. I'm strongly suspecting that this is a move aimed specifically at 3rd party players.

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

Clever engineers.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

If that does happen and adblocker doesn't work one work around that works for twitch will probably be vpn to a country where ads aren't shown.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 10 points 4 months ago

I got issues with both yt-dlp and Newpipe's downloader as well.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

The moment they cut the cord on SmartTube (Android TV), I'll block youtube on my local DNS. Fuck them!

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

Invidious is working fine, as of now.

[–] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago

I don't understand it, but going through various githubs, the problem has been discovered. Here it is:

YouTube changed their code to make it more difficult to extract the throttling parameter decryption function.

There was some coding demonstrating the problem but it was way over my head. Hopefully fixes are coming soon as the issue was marked as urgent. It looks like they know what needs changing.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

SmartTube is back up this morning after an update.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago
[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tubular and NewPipe both barely working all day for me. Maybe 1 out of 10 vids loads. Downloading fails too.

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

I find it useful changing instances in invidious, there is usually at least one up and running. You could use Clipious or Materialious apps on Android for easy access. Btw I once had Tubular, Newpipe, Libretube(piped.video) and Clipious installed all at the same time because of the same issues with Youtube attacking privacy front ends.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 2 points 4 months ago

i recommend the freetube android beta. its working well for me at the moment.

[–] intothesky@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does someone know why Grayjay still works perfectly?

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Piped/LibreTube seem to be dying now as well

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Just keep changing instances until you find one that works

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Btw, i never saw server side appps. Is it limited for now?

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

PipePipe works with V3.5.0

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is revanced still working?

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