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[–] confluence@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an exvangelical, I can tell you Christian Nationalism and anti-Communism are two sides of the same coin. The GOP takes advantage of the religious devotion of the fundamentalists to push their agenda. I wouldn't say this was because the Soviet Union fell, but I think it's at least partially because it existed in the first place.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago

100% There was a whole lot of it being pushed in response to the USSR's existence. IIRC that's when "under God" got added to the pledge, for example

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd just like to point out that the posted wikipedia page is a wonderful example of 'leopards ate my face'. Had no idea this was a thing, TIL. Who in their right mind would ever think supporting religious extremists would end well for... anyone?

[–] ruford1976@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

pakistan also did the same thing

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, that's ridiculous. And Russia can suck it.

The government/country, not the people in it

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago

I suspect there’s cognitive bias inclining people to belief systems like common religions. Had Communism won the Cold War, religion (in all but name) would have returned within a generation, possibly by Marxism-Leninism mutating to have more religion-like characteristics (more rituals, prayers-in-all-but-name to dead Bolshevik heroes, a Communist afterlife for all the comrades who don’t reach the promised land in this life, and so on). Within a century, the secular and materialistic nature of Communism would have been all but forgotten, much like Gnostic Christianity or the secular nature of the American Revolution.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The U.S. would be crazy religious regardless of who lost the Cold War.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I do think of how we were on a secularizing trend, but then cranked up religion as national identity as one of the issues which separated us from them.

I do have optimism that we may be reaching a tipping point in voter blocs and sentiment as the religious right finally "catches the car", forcing casual supporters to confront what they have been defending.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Russia won the cold war, got their orange puppet into office and everything.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago