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Hello, with the spicy beehaw drama I was wondering, would it be possible to selfhost a lemmy instance literally just for yourself and no one else to like, circumvent any defederation shenanigans? As all instances federate per default, this should work right?

Allthough, as far as my understanding of how federation works is that I would need to manually subscribe to every community on every instance that I'm interested in as federation only syncs communities that have at least one subscriber on the hosting instance, correct?

Or is there a way to subscribe to EVERYTHING?

Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?

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[–] ripcord@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just curious, which beehaw drama?

Edit: ah, scrolled down a bit and found this, assume that's it.

[–] NotSteve_@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw is defederating from sh.itjustwor.ks and Lemmy.world.Personally I think it's silly to be upset over it considering defederation is one of the selling points of Lemmy.

Beehaw is just going for a more curated experience which I think is completely fine. I'm sure once they have more moderators they'll consider refederating anyway.

[–] polygon@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's definitely an interesting selling point. I've always said you have to take the good with the bad on social media, but having independent instances who can curate things a bit means you don't actually have to take the bad if you don't want. Even though the Beehaw admin themselves said this is essentially a nuke and not how they'd preferred to have handled it (Lemmy doesn't have the tools just yet to do it any other way) it's still interesting and unique in social media.

Beehaw is creating an identity for themselves and sticking to it, rather than being a general instance. Some people will love that, some will hate it. But ultimately it's whats going to make Beehaw a unique place to be for those who want it without taking anything away from those who don't. This is all still early stages for Lemmy and there are growing pains for sure, but this sort of thing, to me at least, shows the possibilities of a Federated network.

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I believe an instance can whitelist which would block all other instances and only allow ones it approves. I don't know of one that does that yet, but I could see beehaw doing that in the futureβ€”in which case, having a solo instance would not help.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When people say "instances federate by default", they don't mean the instances engage in active content discovery. They mean the default behaviour when someone goes to look for content that's offsite is to connect to the remote instance.

Running a solo Lemmy or kbin instance puts all of the responsibility of content discovery on your own shoulders. You'll need to go out and scout other instances to see what you want to follow, and then subscribe to those sources in order to keep content flowing.

I highly recommend having a secondary account that you use to subscribe to things somewhat indiscriminately so you can separate out your subscribed feed from your all feed in a meaningful way.

[–] dichtbringer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good idea, use one account just to sub everything so syncing works and I can use "all" and "subsribed" seperatly, very good idea. Do you know if there is an easy way to "subscribe to everything"? Like a script or something?

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not that I'm aware of. But you can get a list of active group-hosting fediverse sites here: https://fediverse.observer/list From there, you can find the list of groups found on each site and decide what you'd like to subscribe to. I'm sure you could scrape them and build a bot with a little Python or something, if you have any experience with that.