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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 43 points 9 months ago

I swear there was one guy who predicted this in a post here like right after the fire happened. He even said it sounded crazy/conspiratorial and here we are.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I remember that and thinking he was probably right but hoped maybe something good would happen. That was foolish clearly

[-] June@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

I mean, I don’t think the fire was set for this purpose, but this is exactly what a capitalist does in a situation like this.

It’s not conspiratorial to recognize how profiteers will see a tragedy as an opportunity.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of the one time I came home with the book "Shock Doctrine" and my lolbertarian roommate loled and called it a conspiracy theory.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 9 months ago

In illegally occupied Hawaii, the goal has always been genocide of the indigenous. The UN needs to kick the USA out of Hawaii.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

check out all the colonizer scumbags downvoting you

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Not just downvoting. Have you seen these comments? The brain rot never ceases to amaze me.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

indeed, reddit migration brought over some of the most deplorable people here

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

This is dumb bullshit. stfu, idiot.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How's this dumb? They're correct. The US is illegally occupying Hawaii and persecutes the indigenous to that end.

I get the feeling you just like licking imperialists' boots.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago
[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

This is why instances defederate from you morons. Blocked.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Blocked.

I don't understanding this new thing of bragging about being fragile but in the tone of a tough guy

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

It's not new. It's what freeze-gamer melodramatically do in local chat all the time in online games.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

you know what's even better, go back to the reddit cesspool whence you came from

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

lol, no, bitch, get over it

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

lol yeah gtfo colonizer

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

"All these Hexbear posters are so rude, they never say anything of substance, they just insult you"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago

shut the fuck up colonizer

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

good, those meltdown videos are quality content

Your meltdown comments are quality content. frothingfash

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com -1 points 9 months ago

thanks, appreciated, blocked

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

It's too bad you never found out that announcing blocks only makes you look more pissy and pompous. wojak-nooo

[-] nach@bae.st 0 points 9 months ago

@UlyssesT @mateomaui shut the fuck up redditor, your retarded instance already blocks the wider fediverse nigger

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

I enjoyed that reply, filling my bong with your tears.

[-] hexthismess@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

Wow, what inciteful and valuable commentary you've added.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com -1 points 9 months ago

It’s not worth the trouble. I’ve lost friends and will be helping others rebuild. Whatever you think is irrelevant. Bye bye now.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

dramatic fedora tip

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Reddit has turned your brain to soup

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

Mahalo for your support

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

I really wouldn't have guessed that Tankies would have "Hawaii" in their list of trigger-words like this. Half the comments in this thread are "but imperialism!" when the subject is actually housing prices and has nothing to do with it. If Hawaii was a sovereign state they'd probably be having similar problems with displaced renters from a situation like this.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, they’re so concerned about us here. I’d like to see donation receipts. Probably hasn’t occurred to them how many elderly kapuna rely on US social security benefits to pay rent after paying into the system for decades, etc. The whole “US needs to leave Hawaii” thing is pretty poorly thought out.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com -1 points 9 months ago

That’s it, just line yourselves up for me, like shooting fish in a barrel.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Shooting fish in a barrel is when I make myself look like an ass for the whole internet to see

Lmao, okay

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago

yep, just keep lining up for me

[-] Redhotkurt@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not like it matters since you're a tankie and all you want to do is sow discord by shitting on the "libs" and the west," but the rebuilding of Lahaina threatens to permanently displace everyone who lives there, and not just the 10% of the residents who happen to be indigenous. Do you know anything about the place you're using to push pro-Russian (and, ironically, its denial of genocide when committed by communist countries) propaganda? Lahaina is full of poor people, you ignorant fuck. The entire town of the 13,000 is not only poor, but JFC, they are now homeless and mostly jobless because the fire destroyed everything. That town is totally fucked, man, and you're using its suffering to rile up and disenfranchise more people for your pro-Russia bullshit? Fuck off.

Like I said, you don't give a fuck about the people who live there, and you certainly don't give a fuck about actual genocide - especially genocide that is happening right now. So get fucked and go post your fascist recruitment garbage elsewhere. And tell your Hexblyat buddies they can go eat shit too.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

This is just too rich. The brain worms really got you.

Yeah the displacement of the poor on Hawaii is a function of capitalism. The only form of capitalism in the West is racialized capitalism. Racialized capitalism is built on illegal occupation, slave labor, genocide, and ecocide.

Stating facts about the history of Hawaii and the illegal occupation of it by the USA is not in any way pro-Russian. I have no idea what your ranting about with that.

Do I give a fuck about the white settlers living in occupied Hawaii? Not really. They are reaping what was sown.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social -3 points 9 months ago

Lemmygrad users are very creative at finding unexpected and loopy new ways to criticize the American government.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onipa%CA%BBa_Peace_March

Maybe it's crazy and unexpected to you because you're ignorant. Maybe you're ignorant because the Western education system produces useful idiots in droves.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Hawaii

Literally amended a law in 1993 to address the legality of the occupation and it's still illegal.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Remind me what's loopy about pointing out that US occupies Hawaii and genociding the native population there colonizer?

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

Feature not a bug

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


HONOLULU (AP) — Residents who survived the wildfire that leveled the Hawaii town of Lahaina might not be able to afford to live there after it is rebuilt unless officials alter the zoning laws and make other changes, economists warned Friday.

Soaring housing prices have already forced many Native Hawaiians and other longtime Hawaii residents to leave the islands and move to the U.S. mainland.

The wildfire that claimed at least 97 lives and destroyed 2,200 buildings in the West Maui community of Lahaina — 86% of which were residential — amplifies that problem for the survivors.

A spike in housing costs would be a further burden for people — including retirees and those who worked in restaurants, hotels and shops — who lost their homes and jobs when their places of employment burned to the ground on Aug. 8, or when West Maui temporarily closed to tourism after the disaster.

At a news conference on Thursday at the state Capitol, Green stressed that the displaced survivors won’t be forced out of hotels to make room for tourists, with October typically being a slow month for tourism.

“Outsiders should not have the opportunity to grab land or properties because emotions are running high, so everyone is vulnerable,” Melody Lukela-Singh, whose home on Lahaina’s renowned Front Street burned, said recently.


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[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

This is something to keep an eye on from this disaster. I hope some good policy and solutions get put in place to get proper housing back in place for the working locals.

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