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Most people access the Fediverse through one of the large instances: lemmy.world, kbin, or beehaw. New or small instances of Lemmy have no content by default, and can most easily get content by linking to larger Lemmy instances. This is done manually one "Community" at a time (I spent 15 minutes doing this yesterday). Meanwhile, on larger instances, content naturally aggregates as a result of the sheer number of users. Because people generally want a user experience similar to Reddit, I think it's inevitable that most user activity will be concentrated in one or two instances. It is probable that these instances follow in the footsteps of Reddit- the cycle repeats.

I actually think the Fediverse is in the beginning the process of fragmenting into siloed smaller, centralized instances. Beehaw, which is on the list of top instances, just blacklisted everyone from lemmy.world. Each of the three largest instances now are working to be a standalone replacement for Reddit and are in direct competition with each other. It is possible that this fragmentation and instability? of Lemmy instances will kill the viability of Federated Reddit altogether, but hopefully not.

These are my main takeaways from my three days on the Fediverse. I will stick around to see if the Fediverse can sustain itself after the end of the Reddit blackouts.

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[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

I'll toggle from local to all if things are a bit slow, but I generally regret it. The chatter "over there" was that Beehaw is the place to go, and it just happens to run on Lemmy software.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because people generally want a user experience similar to Reddit

The power Reddit has over these users is they believe that to be what they want. But have you ever run into a longtime Redditor who says it's perfect the way it is? Not just recently, either.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Been a Reddit user for well over a decade... If you asked me a decade ago I would have said it was near perfect... Now? Fuck no, it's terrible. They've jumped off the rooftop long ago... just been waiting for the splat and the alternative. I found the alternative... Just waiting for the splat since that will be fun to watch.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd sum it up thus: When's the last time you enjoyed a new bot?

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[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Totally disagree, the more tech savvy can spin up their own single user instances if they want, be fully in control of their own content and participate just like anyone on any large instance bar being defederated. All for basically free

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, my first instinct was “how can I monetize this”

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[–] schmonie@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit isn't totally free of this problem (feature) either--You can have multiple subreddits dedicated to the same topic.

IMO while the federated communities might feel fragmented if you are used to reddit, it's the main benefit of using Lemmy and something that should be embraced. Concentrating content into only a few instances defeats the point of federation.

Take the current issue as an example: A gigantic community defederated from another gigantic community leading to a comparatively large wall between the content of those communities. Had they been smaller, the impact of this issue would therefore also be smaller. This affects other communities which get content from beehaw as well, since there's now less interaction between a large portion of the fediverse user base.

It's only natural that large communities will bubble to the top however, and there probably isn't a good answer to how to 'balance out' those communities, or if that's even beneficial at all.

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