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[–] SignullGone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But the sources, who asked to remain anonymous and are all in a position to know, told Public that, in addition to the whistleblowers reporting wrongdoing, between 30 to 50 government employees or contractors have gone to the DoD’s All-Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to offer testimony about UAPs.

Testimony has included both first-hand and second-hand reports of crash retrieval and reverse-engineering programs by US, Russian, and Chinese governments; the testing of materials obtained from retrieved craft; active and ongoing government disinformation operations; kinetic military action with UAPs; contact and collaboration with nonhuman intelligence (NHIs); and the successful reverse-engineering of a triangle-shaped craft with unconventional propulsion.

Some more interesting things of note from the paid portion.

  • Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin is trying to undermine Schumer's UAP amendment, telling anyone who will listen that it will hurt national security
  • Rep. Mike Turner similarly has tried to kill the amendment, and block the congressional UAP hearings after Grusch's July testimony
  • Senator Mark Warner has tried to shut down the possibility of any UAP hearings in the Senate

Edit: If any of this reporting is true, this is wild.

[–] UndefinedIsNotAFunction@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

collaboration with NHI - woah.

[–] zanzo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

exactly…woah.

[–] zanzo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes I pause when I read about how hard some military leadership is trying to stop disclosure. If all of this is just weapons testing then, okay, that makes normal sense. If it’s because there is a ton of graft, then, wow, that’s still a story. But what if it’s just really disturbingly bad news and they really are trying to stop a well-founded risk of global panic.

Still, call me Pandora, but i still want to know…

[–] HM05_Me@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If the government were keeping a dark secret, then at some point the band-aid needs to be ripped off and the public needs to find out. Obviously, that's easier to say from the perspective of someone in the dark. But, a controlled release of information is likely better than hiding it until some people or groups break down and just drop it all at once.

[–] Mokujin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is pretty big news IMHO, especially the bit about the triangle craft, which to me is HUGE, because it has that been seen/rumored for years as a US made ARV(alien reproduction vehicle).

If that turns out to be true, that means someone has been passively leaking this info for years, what else could be true?

[–] Kahlenar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Leaking a same\specific lie over and over to keep tabs on the leak trails seems far more likely than Fermi winning the dice roll on this.

[–] HM05_Me@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've always been one to believe that the best way for the government to cover something of this magnitude is to leak details. Especially if you get the details into movies, TV, and other pop culture where you can then dismiss people's claims by saying it was just something they saw on TV. Even Stargate SG-1 had an episode (Wormhole X-Treme!) about allowing details to be included in a TV show for plausible deniability. On that note, X-Files had a triangle shaped craft that is fairly close to the one people believe to be real. I don't necessarily believe one way or another that leaks have been happening this way. However, I see a lot of people stating that aliens/UAP wouldn't look what we see in TV and movies, so leaks could definitely work.