Lol so awesome
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If they capture enough.. They could negotiate a surrender/end to this stupid fucking war by holding them hostage until public pressure increases enough.
there are Russian families that have been given bodies to bury when their children are actually POWs in Ukraine
Jesus Christ imagine putting this much effort into obfuscating the truth. Like the media apparatus we live in in the west deserves criticism for obfuscating truth but usually its from being willingly lazy, not out of being willfully... Whatever this is
I don't even know if it was obfuscation as much as incompetence
Those are the original sins; the disinfo media's job is to gaslight and favorably spin any bad news.
I just don't understand the propaganda benefit of telling somebody that their son is dead instead of a POW. and then, you're giving the family a body.
sounds like they just don't care enough, and people are probably frequently being mixed up
There isnt any propaganda benefit beyond "your son died hero killing many Ukraini! Here is bottle of BLYATT THATS STRONG and two hundred ruble." The families of enlisted know their sons died in vain, but they cant do shit about it so the pundits get to say whatever they want because theyre "taking care of the family of our fallen soldiers."
But youre right, nobody gives a fuck. Remember when the mobniks brought along mobile incinerators to the front? That was because they knew casualties would be ridiculously high, so they needed the means of destroying evidence (i.e. mobnik corpses)
No evidence is as good as never happened to Russia.
Pooty poot doesn't care about that. Its what he does and I can assure you if Ukraine stooped that low which isn't likely putin would sooner see them dead. After all putin thinks children's hospitals are okay to attack.
PoW can be held, not with a threat to them, but just held. Show their faces. Allow them to talk. Keep housing them and showing them day after day. Hamas haven't threatened their hostages (openly), they have just held them.
How are they being so easily captured? What's going on there?
it's a mindset. pretty much none of them asked to be there, and they're not fighting to defend their homes, so why the fuck should I do anything dangerous?
Also think about what the Ukrainian soldiers know about what's at stake, and think about that core to the Russian experience is never knowing what truth is
Ever see a prison riot get stopped? These are conscripts that were promised freedom if they killed enough people.
They fall back on their most recent training; prison training. They sit when told, doesn't matter who instructs them.
Lmao that's how conscripted prisoners act; like they did in prison. That's the best of the Russian armed forces right there.
Any excuse to lay down for a bit.
People here are talking about conscripted prisoners, but that's not what we see here. Prisoners are offered contracts with the military, and then sent to the places where Russia is attacking to be used as expendable troops in so called meat assaults.
These are conscripts - young men on their mandatory military training which lasts for a year. Instead of actual training they have been sent to guard the border because Russia didn't expect Ukraine to attack. Because of the lack of training, motivation and most importantly heavy weapons, they are more likely to surrender.
This distinction is especially important because Putin has repeatedly promised that conscripts will not be used in the war.
What are they doing with them. Are they sending them back to Ukraine Do they have logistical support for the invasion.
More logistical support than Russia's incursions, thats for damn sure.
lol yes
Doing some good work.