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[–] loie@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is public and (relatively) common knowledge that an Abrams tank can fire accurately at speed over rough terrain by postponing the firing of a shell by just a fraction of a second until the gyroscopes and computers determine that tank is "floating" at the apex of a bump.

That tech has existed since the 1980's.

The implementation shown in this gif may be noncredible, but the concept most certainly belongs in the other place.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh, does this fire automatically when aligned with the target? That's neat.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Trigger bot

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think that’s how the TrackingPoint system works as well.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

For the unfamiliar.

It sounds like these are actually pretty widespread at this point. It's not just them, 10 years after their product was released. The challenge especially in military applications would be correctly identifying the target.

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

security experts Runa Sandvik and Michael Auger demonstrated that naive software design left the rifle's aiming computer open to remote hacking when its Wi-Fi capability was turned on

Not even "smart" weapon designers are taking embedded device security seriously enough. I wish I were surprised.

[–] Noobnarski@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why not? It might not need to actually hit anyone, just the chance of being hit is probably enough to scare anyone away.

I wouldnt wanna be in a trench or field and suddenly hear gunshots coming from above.

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Perfect for suppressive fire and/or diversion.

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Soon we will have noncredibleyetcredibledefense.

[–] QuentinQuiver@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It already is. It's basically science. These ideas can all be tested by militaries across the world

[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, some of our ideas we start need to pattern. Nocredibledefense LLC/BV/GmbH/ltd and wait until Raytheon/Boeing/Northrop Grumman will acquire us. Win win.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

"How'd you get hired by Raytheon? Networking?" "Shit posting mostly"

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Which of you suggested bracing the gun by pointing it directly into one's crotch while attaching it to the drone?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

It's common Reddit knowledge to align the barrel with the "cylinder" to get to the proper mounting position.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago
[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until it's gimbal mounted with head tracking

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RIGS on the original psvr used this method for aiming the guns on your mech. Obviously aiming in a game vs an actual fpv drone is different, but it was remarkably intuitive once you got over the looking one way and moving the other nausea.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

DJIs Avata 2 has some interesting head tracking features.

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 2 months ago

Now put a bayonet on it.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Tell them I love them

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I assumed this was the first idea but the accuracy wasn't good enough.

[–] brognak@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, probably doesn't need to be great or even good. Two or three of these could strafe over a trench or other exposed position and just spray. Even if it doesn't cause great physical harm, the sheer terror of it would be useful.

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Suppressive fire is a thing, and it does look like this would be good enough to do that.

The real limitation is magazine capacity for that role. Slap a drum mag on there instead and you've got a winner.

[–] brognak@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Suppressive fire was my first thought, had the same one about capacity. They have hexaquads now that can lift 30+lbs, at that point they can lift a fully loaded m249 (22lbs according to internet) with room to spare.

Why am I even thinking this, these are terrifying thoughts 😅

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It needs a little work on the recoil compensation, otherwise it's going to be a sitting duck every time it fires off a burst.

[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just attach another ak firing in the opisite direction.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

You joke, but that would probably work

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

The MQ-27 Dragonfire is now real, a year ahead of schedule.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel like you could probably hear it and shoot it down yourself before it would have any decent chance of hitting you. It would probably be much more effective to have the drone fly as high as possible and the gun positioned to fire straight down.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If there's enough drones in the air and it's the right area I'm guessing it could sneak up on you. It's essentially just a suicide drone with longer range and potential reusability (but less reliable lethality).

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Makes more sense if it's going hunting for Russian drones.