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Threadiverse? I didn't hear this name, I think it can be confused with Meta's threads.net. But I don't like Lemmy, and don't want the network to be named after it. For example we don't call Fediverse as Mastodonverse.
As for Mbin, UI looks good, a feature showing similar threads is useful. But it is quite new yet, many important options are missed in the preferences yet.
Threadiverse was used prior to Meta's joining of the Fediverse.
Lemmyverse = a federation of Lemmy instances. Threadiverse = a federation of Lemmy, mbin instances etc. Fediverse = all the software that uses ActivityPub.
I think the name has been there longer than threads(.)net. But yeah, at this point it's too easy to confuse if one doesn't know about it already.
Yes indeed.. “threads” in the generic sense of the word pre-dates the web. And threadiverse is a few years older than “FB Threads™”. That’s what’s so despicable about Facebook hi-jacking the name. It’s also why I will not refer to them by Meta (another hi-jacking of a generic term with useful meaning that their ego-centric marketers fucked up)
I've used the term "threadiverse" for a while and it's been in use from before Meta threads was widely advertised, but I agree that it can be confusing now
It would be nice to have a descriptor for the format. For example, Mastodon & Misskey are 'Microblogging' platforms. Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed, and Sublinks are _____ platforms.
The network is called Fediverse. I don't see the need for a separate term, there also isn't a "Tootiverse".
@kenkenken I totally agree with you, the term "Threadiverse" makes me cringe because of the Meta connection... but it's what people have been calling content aggregation projects on the Fediverse. I didn't come up with it 🤷♀️
Really liking #Mbin so far and happy about its interoperability
What kind of options do you feel mbin is currently missing?
Sorting order preferences.
@elena@fedia.io @_elena @elena@lemmy.world I have most experience with Lemmy which does what I need it to and what I expect from it, which is: being able to post long format texts with the occasional pictures. I maintain the community over at https://feddit.nl/c/nuclear
I started on /kbin (MBin's predecessor) because I liked the UI and the philosophy. But then I wanted to host it myself and it being written in PHP I really didn't want to host it myself, I've been burned by PHP software too many times in the past.
Therefor I switched to Lemmy which was a nightmare to setup in the beginning because there was no documentation on how to do it. I still got it working after some time and was fairly happy with it. It was reasonably fast, the UI is good enough and it had a lot of 3rd party apps working with it so I could choose some other frontend on the phone for example. But over the last year every update made it more and more heavy to run as a single user instance. And then the current update made it so I couldn't run it on my small VPS anymore because it would create such a load that all the other services I'm running on it (Mastodon, some Websites, PeerTube, Matrix, etc.) would go down because of it.
So I switched to PieFed. So far it has been amazing for me. It's written in Python so it's super easy for me to understand and to fix things which I don't like. It has a simple theme engine which made it very easy for me to adapt a theme to how I want to have it. But the biggest advantage is that it's so easy on the resources, I can run it as a single user instance and it does not affect any of my other services running on the same server.
So there you have it, if you don't have too many resources available on your server I would go with PieFed. The developer is very approachable and aligns with my values more than the Lemmy devs.
I think there were historically interoperability issues, and there used to be (my version of mbin is quite old), and maybe still are issues federating dislikes (which stems from the way they were seen in kbin, which straddles both thread based and mastadonesque sides of the fediverse). But overall there's aren't the larger federation issues there used to be.
Right now, the choice mainly comes down to the interface you prefer, and if you perhaps want a limited ability to work with mastadon type posts. Since you can follow mastadon users and see their posts within the mbin interface.
Testing out comment federation, please don’t mind me 🙈
Pinging @_elena@mastodon.social @elena@friendica.opensocial.space and @elenarossini@pixelfed.social (because, why not) 🙈 as well as @elena@lemmy.world and @elena@piefed.social
one more Fediverse interoperability test, this time with my new Friendica instance (oh hey @elena@poliverso.org) and with my federated Wordpress blog (@ele@elenarossini.com)
@elena@fedia.io @elena@lemmy.world 👷🏻♀️ OP here, testing out if Mastodon replies federate 👷🏻♀️
If I can help with your tests in some way, let me know. I manage most types of fediverse software including Fedia.io, though I’ve not yet tried piefed. I think your question is prompting me to give it a try.
Thank you so much Jerry, I really appreciate! 🙏
I'm really enjoying Fedia.io and I'm delighted that my Mastodon (thread) mention showed up in my Mastodon notifications. It's the first time I managed to get it to work on the "Threadiverse" (the same experiment failed on Lemmy and PieFed).
Interestingly, the same thing didn't work for my Lemmy.world account or Friendica.
The lesson so far: Mbin threads on Fedia.io federate mentions on Mastodon but not Lemmy or Friendica. But I bet mentions in comments federate. So retrying this here: @elena@lemmy.world and @elena@friendica.opensocial.space
And apologies in advance if I'm using the wrong language to describe this, I'm a newbie 😅
I’m not surprised about friendica. I will ask the mbin developers to take a look. I will also take a look at lemmy - I know federation works with lemmy.world - I get enough reports about their users here to know that for sure :) I just don’t know how mentions are handled.
@jerry thank you again Jerry!
Communication between Friendica and Mbin (mentions) doesn’t work at all. And I’m finding some strange bugs when it comes to federation of Mbin comments that mention Lemmy.world accounts (some show up, others don’t).
But the communication between Mbin and Mastodon is EXCELLENT ✨🏆✨
Thank you for all your work on Fedia.io!
federation issues plague mbin to a point that surpasses kbin, time and again ... federation between kbin and friendica had always been troublefree ...
Interesting, le sigh. Unfortunately I could not make account mentions federate AT ALL from Mbin → Friendica. I'll try the other way around to see if anything happens (Friendica → Mbin)
Hi Elena. I just tried duplicating your test. I posted a thread here and mentioned both my Mastodon and Friendica accounts. Like you, it took a while (15 minutes) for the mention to reach Mastodon, but unlike you, the mention did eventually reach my Friendica account as well (after 45 minutes).
Is it possible that your Friendica server is blocking MBIN?