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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Since when are crimes illegal?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only illegal if you get caught. It's airtight MAGAt logic.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

It’s only illegal if you ~~get caught.~~ aren't rich.

ftfy

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Since you've been poor?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Is he though? Seems like the latest "oh my god he's going down" only for him to be out campaigning like a week later.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There is a disconnect between his legal situation and his behaviour because he's too way stupid to realise he's screwed.

He did a terrible job of hiding the evidence of his crimes in many cases he straight up boasted about them on Twitter. He's misbehaved towards various judges on a number of occasions and threatened the jury. So not only is he absolutely screwed, he's making the situation worse.

The reason he is still campaigning is because he's really really really really thick. As are his supporters who think he has even a snowball's chance in hell of getting away with this.

It's old really because if he believed it's his own rhetoric, then there's some kind of evil vendetta against him bey the evil left, in which case he should know he's not going to get away. Extreme cognitive dissonance.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think somewhere in the back of his mind he knows he's screwed from a legal perspective, but he also knows that if he acts like everything's ok he might have a chance to be president again. He might be dumb but he knows the kind of power he has in his hands.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or he's banking on getting re-elected before the case can conclude.

He's used to this, first he does something blatantly illegal, then he makes the case take so long and cost so much that it's not worth pursuing anymore.

[–] Shadai@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually just wait, it's probably far worse.

I'd bet a paycheck if he gets reelected the first act as president will be to pardon himself. If you don't think he'll do it, you weren't paying attention during his first term.

All the more reason people need to get out and vote for whoever is running against him.

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[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The wheels of justice turn very slowly in the USA. His legal team's strategy to keep him or if prison is to slow then down even more. Iirc his first criminal trial starts either this Monday or the following Monday.

Unless you're a poor person, obviously.

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly I don't care what happens to T as long as I can finally stop seeing his fucking name seemingly every other day. I was so happy when joe won because I thought 'my god, I won't have to hear about trump for at least another four years! Finally!" Well I guess that clock finally ticked down and were back to talking about the most...interesting ex-president alive today.

Anyone else remember when Bill getting a blowjob was earth shattering and impeachment-discussion worthy? Really puts things into perspective.

Im simply tired of hearing his name and seeing his face. Whether he gets jailed forever, gets away with a wrist slap, or dies of old age/gets epsteined before either, I couldn't care less as long as he finally gets out of the spotlight permanently.

My money is on a wrist slap but we'll see. The rich and politically well connected are notoriously known for getting away with just about anything in the U.S. Y'know because they built the system and rigged it to be in their favor. Fairness is the philosophical tooth fairy, it doesn't exist. I won't be clutching my pearls about how justice in america is dead if he slips away with a few hundred mil in fines and 200 hours community service before he gets booted out to live the rest of his days on one of his private islands in bumfuck nowhere atlantic ocean.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Starting to think he'll never go to jail, and most likely he'll get re-elected.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He'll probably die before seeing his jail cell.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At this point, I'll accept that. Go cholesterol, go!

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[–] Huschke@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bold of you to assume they can.

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[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Acting as a martyr he is gaining even more consensus. This can backfire... like what happened with, say, Berlusconi who got re-elected multiple times despite being prosecuted.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No it won't backfire. He'll act like a martyr no matter what happens or doesn't happen.

The only difference is whether he's held accountable for his crimes and pretends to be a martyr or not held accountable and still pretends to be a martyr.

As for the cult believing him, same deal. Following the leader blindly is what cults do.

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[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Maybe so, but it would backfire even more if they completely refrained from holding him accountable for his countless crimes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has all the support he's ever going to get. His supporters are probably going to go ballistic when he's convicted but they go ballistic most of the time anyway. He's not swaying on the fence voters.

He's actually repelling voters while at the same time splitting the Republican vote. He is actually the left secret weapon against the right, let Trump do as much damage as possible to the Republicans, and then come on in the campaign time, point out but he is basically trying to start a dictatorship.

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[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 7 points 1 year ago

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions...

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