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[–] MeshPotato@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Indonesia is just bizarre. They've got the most draconian and nonsensical laws. The only step up is a full on fascist country like China or russia.

Other than being cheap, I don't understand why so many digi nomads want to live there.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't know how much you know about the political history of Indonesia, but it's already pretty much a fascist state.

Check out The Act of Killing. It's brutal.

[–] azayrahmad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How come you say that? Genuine question. Seemed to me like the people who did or supported the mass murders of Leftists were still in power.

[–] azayrahmad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ask anyone in Indonesia if their country is fascist. Or better yet, go visit Indonesia and check by yourself.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“Ask all the people in the country who would never say that out loud about their country as they’re under duress as saying that about their country will get them killed in their country”

Yeah, good plan

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always talk shit about my country (Indonesia), but Indonesia really is not a fascist state anymore. Seriously. Your information might be out of date as of 2023. Just tell me why you think Indonesia is a fascist state and I'll see if it's still applicable now.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Hey, I don’t have any information about Indonesia specifically; all I’m saying is that if you ask someone if the country they live in is fascist, you’ll get one of three “no”s:

  1. They’ll say no, because it isn’t.
  2. They’ll say no, because it is but they like it, and they know what a bad connotation the word has.
  3. They’ll say no, because it is and they don’t like it, but they know what a ban connotation the word has and they don’t want to be locked up for it.
[–] eskimofry@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

When you kill people who say otherwise... all there is left is people who praise you.. either out of fear or out of stupidity.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is like saying Germany is a fascist state because of the Nazi which are already gone a long time ago.

Edit: why the downvotes? The people referenced in the Act of Killings documentary are either no longer in power or long dead. The golfing dude who look important are just head of some gang organization who have a bad reputation among Indonesian people that know him (most don't), not an elected government official. How is Indonesia a fascist state when every election periods we have two presidential candidates with very close vote counts?

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The AFD disagree with you

[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Digital nomad in Indonesia here. People are friendly, food is great, scenery is beautiful, and weather is cool but not cold this time of year. I wouldn't live here full time, but I wouldn't live anywhere full time (because I am a nomad!).

I don't agree with many of the laws here but that is true of pretty much everywhere.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a tropical country with great food, welcoming people and beautiful landscapes, so I can imagine a few reasons why. The laws and proneness to natural disasters are less than ideal, though.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The olds rule the world.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only step up is a full on fascist country like China or russia.

You are confusing fascism with imperialism. Netiher China or Russia is fascist state despite of what some shitty non-scientific sources say. However it's not hard to see increase of fascist movement in Russia (which could become a huge problem in post war Russia no matter the result of the war), but also in some other European states or even USA (Republicans come to mind).

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The nationalist authoritarian does seem to have power in China for sure, but doesn't seem to the primary power there.

[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in Indonesia. When the rebrand announcement happened I checked x.com and it was indeed blocked. But twitter.com worked fine (I mean, worked just like you'd expect a garbage dump to).

I checked a couple days later and it was the same. Now both work correctly.

If twitter.com got blocked it must have been for a very short period and at a weird time. I can't imagine a redirect from a previously unrelated website triggering a block.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the first hand account. I can't stand reading all the comments from people assuming things.

[–] DaveNa@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The article clearly states that the government was talking with Twitter to resolve the problem. Companies don't want downtime. It was a dumb move.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

194 countries to go!

[–] MapleCoffee@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was kind of wondering how long it would be until something like this happened.

When we talk about something we watched on Facebook, most people would call it a Facebook video.

When talking about something we watch on YouTube, people usually call it a YouTube video.

It's probably only be a matter of time until someone tries to find a (formerly twitter) video and ends up on xvideos instead. I could totally see a lot of non-tech-friendly people accidentally doing that, and then telling all of their friends/family that (formerly twitter) is now just full of nudity and porn.

[–] Catweazle@social.vivaldi.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@MapleCoffee @gsa32, apart from copyright claims from xvideo.com

[–] MapleCoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Oh, I wasn't trying to say that that would be the official name. I think lot of people would probably call it that just because we use that style of description for other platforms.

If someone somehow wasn't familiar with xvideos, they would definitely be suprised lol.

[–] user75736572@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s pretty’s strict it’s just a letter

[–] Ryan213@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That letter is the gateway to porn.

[–] user75736572@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean sure but it’s a single lute i’d get it if it was xxx

[–] dmnknf@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You will Never get to XXX if you don't accept this first X. Say no to X'es.

[–] Nightmaru@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

X gonna give it to ya

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Gen X here. We’re fucked.

[–] chuwu@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

X. Not even once.

[–] user75736572@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean sure but it’s a single lute i’d get it if it was xxx

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you accidentally posted about lutes, twice.

[–] user75736572@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We know what you really meant. You filthy luteite.

(DM me frets)

[–] 7eter@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wasn't x.com what musk wanted paypal to be named way back? And the domain his all the time? And right now x.com just refers to twitter.com. So users shouldn't be impacted by x.com domain block? What du I know ... glad to not be on that hellsite.

[–] brockpriv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Other sources are saying musk held the x.com domain since he got it 20 years ago. And it was not hosting adult content.

This article sounds like misinformation.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

Well… with all the onlyfans promoting on there, they’re not entirely wrong.

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

It looks like he Musked it up again.

[–] DaveNa@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's a genius ... Genius I tell you. /s

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

We just don't understand the 5D chess he's playing. /s

[–] Jmr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While im here, great job on the rebrand elon https://files.catbox.moe/nncizi.jpg

[–] platysalty@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Malaysia: thank God it's not us this time.

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Tbh I could see this of being an issue in a red state in the US if our law makers were more technically litterate.

[–] quicken@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago
[–] scurzon@rammy.site 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for letting everyone know.

What other subjects do you not care about enough to comment on?

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