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Sept. 30 (UPI) -- Elon Musk is under fire after publicly backing a far-right political party in Germany, suggesting the current government should not be re-elected over its position on the current migrant crisis in Europe.

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[–] gabe@literature.cafe 143 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Wow. He straight up just admitted he's a Nazi. Absolutely fucking vile.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He thinks it's controversial to not let migrants (men, women and children) drown and die, and has no problem promoting a party which is full of nazi sympathizers.

He's a sociopath, a racist and a fascist.

And those likely aren't even his worst characteristics, given the stories of sexual assault, links to Epstein, and the fact his father married his own daughter.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don’t think I want to let him off the hook with a metal disorder.

I won’t accept that he’s a sociopath until there’s an official diagnosis. Sociopaths deserve empathy and need treatment. Musk is just a reprehensible asshole.

(By the way @Hyperreality, I’m not arguing with you. I’m taking the word “sociopath” more literally than you intended. I know what you mean, and agree.)

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Even a sociopath needs to want the treatment for it to work

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That's why he loves the letter X so much. With a slight modification, it becomes a swastika.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 126 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Elon Musk is a South African who lives and operates in the US. Why tf is he trying chiming in about any German electoral process?

How about Apartheid Clyde stays in his lane.

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's building a Tesla factory in Germany. So that might be why. Also it's not just a right wing party, but the most extreme right wing party in Germany that isn't forbidden yet.

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[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The fact that this gets media coverage like it even remotely matters is madness. Will there be media coverage of my posts on the topic, since it's suddenly world news when a private American citizen comments on what is happening in another country..

[–] Deiskos@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because it does matter, motherfucker has millions of people listening to him and a worldwide social media that he controls. Even if his opinions are trash, he amplifies and spreads this garbage, and gives a platform for the scum of the earth who wouldn't have it otherwise.

Fucking Henry Ford of our age.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

This isn't Tom the small business accountant from rural Ohio commenting on Germany's immigration policy on a facebook post. It's someone who controls more money than the GDP of multiple entire countries, and who has already shown an interest in using his companies to influence geo-politics based on his opinions in the moment.

If anything, you should be concerned that a single individual can make choices about global politics without discussion or legal safety guards - which has historically caused some issues in the place that the AfD comes from.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair, this is a private American citizen with close enough ties to far right politicians he hosted the campaign launch of one, who’s whim personally controls a major space launch provider and a site that sets the terms of public conversation and normality for a terrifying large number of people, and ohh ya, in an economic system based around the idea that the person with the most capital gets to decide what to do , well he has the most capital.

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[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 92 points 1 year ago

Elon Musk is starting to go so far off the deepend that we may need to call in Britney Spears dad to take conservertership of him.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm trying my damndest to ignore Musk. I invite you all to join me

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

Does ignoring influential fascists make them stop trying to increase their influence? Or make them stop being fascists?

Maybe we should ask Neville Chamberlain how well that works?

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[–] wabafee@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (79 children)

Dude just admit his a nazi? Or the far right in Germany is not what I think it is. Not familiar with the party structure there.

[–] legofreak@feddit.de 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2022, it was ruled that the BfV may classify and monitor the entire party as a suspected right-wing extremist group. A corresponding lawsuit by the AfD was dismissed because "there were sufficient factual indications of anti-constitutional efforts within the AfD".[36] On 26 April 2023, the BfV, after four years of investigations into the Young Alternative for Germany, categorized that group as a confirmed extremist organization. This allowed the chief of the BfV Thomas Haldenwang to place the youth wing under even more intensive surveillance than the tapping of phone and the use of undercover agents that had been the case until then.[45][46]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

Just summarizing here. They are right wing extremists that have taken over old Nazi talking points and are gaining popularity with anti immigration, anti climate change and populist propaganda.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

BfV is the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, a domestic intelligence agency, so somewhat comparable to the FBI in the USA.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're also famous for very much being “blind on the right eye”. They didn't ban the neonazi party “NPD” (for reference: the original Nazi party was the NSDAP) and their last ex boss (Hans-Georg Maaßen) is a far right conspiracy nut.

They've partially come around apparently as they're now watching the AfD (which is far stronger than the NPD ever was) as well as Maaßen.

[–] xome@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

BfV cannot ban parties. Only the highest court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) can. The only reason they did not do it was because the NPD has too little meaning to be a thread to the German constitution.

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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

He's been cheering for nazis for ages by now. Doesn't that make him a nazi?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

They're against immigration, Islam, refugees, gender equality, gay marriage, and Kosher food. They want the German army to bring back conscription.

They're fucking Nazis.

He's endorsing Nazis.

He's a Nazi.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Fuck Nazis. Especially billionaire Nazis.

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or better, seize all his peoperty and money

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[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope that if he steps foot in any country that experienced the horrors of Nazism, that the locals take to the streets to forcefully eject him from the country. He should be denied entry by the EU entirely.

Edit: I also hopes Germany does something about the AfD, who don't appear to be congruous with Nazi anti-glorification laws.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He only wants a political party that will side with his delusions. Unfortunately his delusions sided with nazis.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago

No, you see, HE isn't a Nazi, he just happens to agree with everything Nazis say.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago
[–] duviobaz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to an expert assessment from the German Institute for Human Rights that's a hundred pages long, all the conditions for banning the AfD party are met. Talks about the urgent need to do so are being kicked off. If a party ban is seriously being considered, you know they are doing something wrong. Party bans in Germany are very difficult to achieve for obvious historical reasons. So far only two have been banned, one of them was the SRP, the follow-up party of the Nazi party.

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[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't matter how much money he has - every time I visualize Musk posting to Twitter, I see him as a teenage edgelord in a shabby suburban tract house, hunched over an off-the-shelf desktop PC in a room with green shag carpeting and fake wood paneling, lit only by the glow from the screen, giggling to himself.

[–] zhunk@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter is so easy for people to get off of. But they won't.

Now, if any companies could give any serious competition in the US to SpaceX (launch or Starlink) and Tesla, that would be phenomenal.

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