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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to the price hikes that make it cheaper?

[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

The headline said "could," so I'm going to assume the headline is clickbait and the price hike will in fact make it cheaper, or dare I say, free.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Yes, making sending mail more expensive is the inevitable consequence of a price hike. Very good random headline writer.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the US, but I suspect mail is fairly the same across North 'Murica. (The government would handle super-remote locations still?)

The only mail I get are either bills or trash. Packages usually don't ship via USPS. I rarely, if ever, send anything.

I wouldn't cry at all if it cost me $5 to send a letter every two or three years.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Canada post is a lot more popular than what i hear about usps. I'd say most packages that aren't Amazon (like 30% of amazon too) go through canpost, until now at least it's usually the cheaper option, and at least in my area much less likely to damage a parcel. They also have more locations. In my town of 600k there is 1 FedEx package pickup with no transit options or bike lanes, but canpost is in every other drugstore.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And yet I can get stuff shipped to me free or nearly free from china while it costs me $25 to get the same size box half way across Canada.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

It's an agreement countries have that when mail reaches them internationally they will bring to destination. The China to Canada/USA is absorbed by the Candian or USA postal service.

[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

China was considered a developing country with cheaper rates for a long time by the Universal Postal Union, an international agreement that sets the rates for postage. The agreement was renegotiated recently so maybe that will change.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/shipping-canada-china-1.6950967

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This and the Chinese government subsidises their postal service.

Another example of the Chinese undercutting the true cost of products in order to destroy markets abroad, just like they are trying with EVs.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or, hear me out, some services don't have to be profitable, like sending put parcels and letters within a country, healthcare or public transportation. Essential services you know.

Instead of giving money to mega corpos for them to pocket it, we could pay for services that benefit the citizens, just like China is doing for postal services.

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and look at how China treats their citizens to be able to do that.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

My point is that postal service shouldn't be run as a private company that absolutely needs to turn a profit, just like healthcare for example.

Conservatives love to treat Canada Post as a private company because they can then tell everyone how unprofitable it is and must be dismantled and sold off to private interests. And then, it will cost even more for less services

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That shipping isn't free, dumbass. It's subsidized to undercut non-chinese suppliers in a (successful) attempt to put them out of business.

[–] fixerdude2@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

This is why Temu and the others are sending stuff for free.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

That's the problem.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Aren’t you precious. lol.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago

Everything is an evil Chinese conspiracy to some people it's genuinely hilarious, like the whole concept of investing in the manufacturing sector to provide an active economy for a developing nation and basic principles like economies of scale are all just sneaky commie lies and actually the global economy is just a chubby yellow man with narrow eyes twiddling his Manchu mustache and laughing evilly about how his plot to flood the world with cheap goods is going to put hardworking mom and pop American corporations out on the street, after only a few more decades of improving everyone's lifestyle with affordable living.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Every year, there are fewer letters to deliver to more addresses, adding significant cost pressures to the Corporation on top of continued inflationary pressures," stated Canada Post.

I wonder how long before it becomes a parcel only service.

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe it's just me, but I can't see that as a valid justification for raising prices. True, letter deliveries are down. But it's not like Canada Post is lacking business through parcel delivery. Why can't they combine the 2? Or have one subsidize the other.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Why does someone who doesn't have access to my apartment building mailbox come drop amazon packages in the lobby, instead of a canada post worker who can leave it in a drop box in the mail room and put the key in my mailbox?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 months ago

Problem is that the prices were originally arranged to that first-class lettermail subsidized the rest of the services. Then the amount of lettermail tanked, and the pricing structure never quite straightened itself out afterwards. Someone has to sit down and rethink it from scratch, and so far no one's been willing to do that.

We still need the postal service, thoughβ€”it serves smaller and remote communities that the couriers would prefer not to deal with.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  1. conservatives hate things the poors can get value from
  2. they decided canada post was a business that had to turn a profit, like the Americans did
  3. now the books have to balance, because that's how governments fund things with no taxes is by increased user fees so they're more dramatically impacted by the ebb and flow of spending and thus die.
  4. then the cons like PP get to laugh into their quiches at the struggles of the poors
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The main users of Canada Post are businesses anyway: junk mail. I get maybe one actual letter from a non-business per year. I doubt my experience is out of the ordinary. Subsidizing Canada Post out of tax revenue would just be subsidizing those businesses that use it to flood our boxes with fliers and coupons.

If we’re going to subsidize it then we should probably move to weekly delivery, rather than daily, and stop delivery of junk mail altogether. But that would cost a lot of postal worker jobs, which seems to be the main purpose of keeping Canada Post in existence.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

they HAD a parcel-only service. They separated it. Hello PUROLATOR, the least effective courier service on the planet. They can't find my 31-story building while they're standing 100ft from it. Like, LOOK UP, IDIOT. And so I have to go to the airport almost, to get my package, if they haven't just thrown it into the ditch and cursed at it in French or something. "Alors, avez ca trou-d'eau la-bas, putain!" or so.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Riveting journalism as usual, blogTO