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Russia's naval activity near undersea cables is reportedly drawing the scrutiny of US officials, further sparking concerns that the Kremlin may be plotting to "sabotage" underwater infrastructure via a secretive, dedicated military unit called the General Staff Main Directorate for Deep Sea Research (GUGI).

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Knocking out internet and telecommunications traffic traveling across these fiber-optic cables would have a devastating effect on government, military, and private-sector communications.

More than 95 percent of international data flows through those submarine cables, which puts them at increasing risk of both cyber and physical attacks .

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Last year, public broadcasters of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Finland uncovered a Russian fleet of suspected spy ships operating in Nordic waters, reportedly for purposes of sabotaging both submarine cables and wind farms.

**In addition to communications, the cables also carry electricity between European countries. **

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"Any activities that damaged seabed infrastructure including undersea cables especially during periods of heightened tensions risks misunderstandings and misperceptions that could lead to unintended escalation," [said an] US official. "The US would be especially concerned about damage to our or our allies' critical undersea infrastructure."

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[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If Russia wants to start WWIII, that’s a good way to do it.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 21 points 2 months ago

A few of us have a long-running joke that World War III will be started because somebody can't reach Pornhub anymore.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

TBH I don't mind when fash blow up disgusting oil pipelines, but keep your grimy hands off my internet please.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I feel like the "tits" they would get for that "tat" would be pretty bad for them. NATO breaks toys better than they ever will.

I don't really think it would start WWIII on it's own, though.

[–] halm@leminal.space 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Welp, there goes the [online] neighbourhood! It was nice knowing you all.

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] halm@leminal.space 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Need to read up on smoke signals and/or carrier pigeons 🙂

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

I was serious. BBSes would be an ideal long-distance communication method under some circumstances.

[–] stallmer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If history is any guide, the Russian subs shouldn’t have any problem getting down to the cables.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Watch 'em fuck up and cut the wrong cable and now the entire country of Russia doesn't have Internet access.

Win win for the dictator

[–] kosmoz@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't that hurt Russia as much as any other country?

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends on which lines are affected.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But still yes, once NATO works out which Russian stuff to take out in response.

Probably the ghost tankers, right?

[–] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or perhaps an unassuming office building that only has outbound VPN connections.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If it's outside Russia, sure. It's probably going to be something (or some things) in international space if it's a retaliation for something in international space. Or at least, it should be, because I don't really buy the "direct war with Russia would be fine" jerk.

[–] JayTreeman@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

If I was running a country and preparing to cut cables like that, it would be because I'd infected the enemy with some type of virus that when activated would wreak havoc over their internet. I'd cut the cables immediately before activation. However, I might be smarter than the Russian leadership, and I don't run a country.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Then shadow the fuckers and ping the fuck out of them.