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Google still hasn't fixed delayed notifications on Pixels, but you can try this (www.androidauthority.com)
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Delayed notifications are one of the most enduring issues with Google Pixel phones, and Google seems to be aware of the issue.

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[–] xcjs@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They still haven't fixed the task switch button from the three button layout becoming non-functional after four years: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/204650736

It's a byproduct of the home and task switch button now being managed by the Pixel Launcher regardless of which launcher you use. The animation delay makes it so the button becomes inactive and won't be made active again until the Pixel Launcher is killed or the phone restarted.

From my perspective, Google is losing interest in maintaining Android at all.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember that being a super annoying problem, and then it went away. I haven't thought about that issue in years. Maybe it only happened on my old 4a.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's been a constant thorn in my side on my Pixel 4 XL, my Pixel 6 Pro, and now my Pixel 8 Pro.

I confirmed with a friend that it still occurs on her Pixel 9 Pro XL.

[–] gazby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to be a die hard three buttoner, but the two button layout (with swipe up from home being the task switcher), plus the nice swipe-the-button-bar to flip through tasks one by one is an improvement for me.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

It is not nearly a replacement for me.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weird. It doesn't happen at all on my Pixel 7 Pro.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Third party launcher and three button navigation?

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yup. I use Lawnchair and 3-button nav, and I double-tap the recent apps button 100 times a day.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just tried it out - triggered it after about an hour. 🙁

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I use gesture navigation on mine, no buttons at all. I also use Nova launcher (with updates blocked because they just got bought by an ad company). Never had a problem!

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It depends on how often and how quickly you use the task switch button. I use it to rapidly switch between two apps frequently by double tapping the button and trigger it multiple times a day still. Google still recognizes it as an open bug.

To note, this occurs with the three button layout, so the fact that you're not having a problem is expected.

I'll only switch from the three button layout if I'm forced to. The gesture based navigation is slower and less precise.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm glad you intuited that I meant "gesture" navigation - had an autocorrect problem. There's a bug I've seen for years where, when swiping back to home, the screen is unresponsive to taps for like a half second. Maybe that's related? Apparently it's more noticeable with third party launchers like mine.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'll have issues after taking a screenshot and navigating back - I just get a non-responsive black screen sometimes except for the navigation buttons. Those are partially unresponsive, and I have to tap them chaotically to get rid of the black screen.

I think the whole Android system navigation has been broken since Google started rolling it into the Pixel Launcher.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

That sounds quite frustrating - I'm glad I've not had that so far. Agreed about the launcher.

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Google is losing interest in maintaining Android at all.

Google is just starting to capitalize big on Android with its strangle hold. They've recently introduced tracking your device while it's off. Scoped storage, where it excludes itself. Stock Pixel devices cannot use other gallery apps to view their images. Google requires developers to submit their key to sign their apps for Google Play Store. Google has copied almost all popular productivity apps to push their own above everyone else. And so on and so on.

Their AI stuff is probably analyzing your data on-device and sending aggregate to their servers. Which they can conflate and market as "not sending your data" but it just means not sending the raw data.

So I really doubt they're losing interest in Android.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

They're certainly losing interest in maintaining core Android, which is closer to what I meant. Everything you've described is within their Play Services environment.

Some of what you've said is incorrect as well - I have a third party gallery that works just fine on my stock Pixel 8 Pro. Its access is just managed by a separate permission.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Peak was pre-12.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like it's been downhill since Jelly Bean.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I kept my Incredible for over a decade, rooted it at a boring job within weeks of buying it and kept trying builds from a dev forum, kept a few on a sd and had clockwork.

I had one job that required 4, so before leaving I'd back up, then wipe, then install the 4.x build with their app on it.

At the end of the day I'd wipe and restore the 3.x build I was using, by the time I got home it was back to the way it was.

This is what I want in a phone again, not hide and seek with predatory data companies. Not only that, but it was fun and I learned things.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With the Pixel phones, there's GrapheneOS. It might be my go-to one day.

[–] ripley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have GrapheneOS on my Pixel and I experience this notification issue.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Right - I wasn't suggesting that it would fix the notification issue, just that it might give the previous commenter the Android environment they're looking for.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Try switching to gestures. I haven't had that problem on my Pixel 6A and I only use gestures (imo they are way better and more convenient to use.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gestures are not better for me and my situation. Please stop suggesting that I work against my better interests.

They are objectively slower and less precise, just to start with.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What? You say that like I say that constantly to you.

I just suggested what works for me. Calm down mate.

Also for me they are objectively faster since I have to move my fingers less. Especially the back gesture which is miles better than the button. I very rarely use the app switcher. It's easier to just swipe to the next app or go to the home screen and open the app again.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're the second person in this thread to try convincing me to switch.

I use the app switcher constantly. I'm using it now to jump between my Lemmy client and YouTube. It works. It's fast. The back navigation also interferes with productivity apps, many of which still use a drawer. I use those apps constantly as well.

Gesture navigation will never be a proper use case for me.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's fine. Don't pretend it's objectively better though.

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I said it was subjectively better and objectively faster. And it is.

Not everyone will agree faster is better, and that's fine.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It might be faster for you. But it's not for me.

In other words it's subjective. (duh)

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The default Android animation transition length is 300 milliseconds. The gesture based navigation uses this delay.

The task switch button, for whatever reason, can interrupt this delay, making it as fast as I can tap, which is a lot faster than 300 milliseconds. In fact, this is what triggers the bug. I had to set the animation scale to 0 on my device just so it can keep up with me.

Speed, time, and duration are not subjective measurements. I will accept that it's more comfortable for you, however.

When your navigation preference breaks the Android animation duration because you're using it so quickly, get back to me.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

I have no doubt you can click very fast.

I was more referring to travel distance though.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] xcjs@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)