this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

It's why only open source ai should exist

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The AI has a huge beneficial for drug development however. Iirc AI has synthesised a stronger version of one of the antibiotics.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

This is really more about what the public considers AI- generative AI bullshit.

[–] tetranomos@awful.systems 2 points 6 days ago

but it allows for some people to type out one-liners and generate massive blobs of text at the same time that they could be doing their jobs. /codecraft

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Lemmy

Edit: Oh shit. I didn't realize this whole community is just for this... oh well.

[–] Whamburglar@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (7 children)

AI absolutely has the potential to enable great things that people want, but that’s completely outweighed by the way companies are developing them just for profit and for eliminating jobs

Capitalism can ruin anything, but that doesn’t make the things it ruins intrinsically bad

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

AI absolutely has the potential to enable great things that people want

The current implementation of very large data sets obtained through web scrapping, very aggressive marketing of these services such that the results pollute existing online data sets, and the refusal to tag AI generated content as such in order to make filtering it out virtually impossible is not going to enable great things.

This is just spam with the dial turned up to 11.

Capitalism can ruin anything

There's definitely an argument that privatization and profit motive have driven the enormous amounts of waste and digital filth being churned out at high speeds. But I might go farther and say there are very specific bad actors - people who are going above simply seeking to profiteer and genuinely have mega-maniacal delusions of AGI ruling the world - who are rushing this shit out in as clumsy and haphazard a manner as possible. We've also got people using AI as a culpability shield (Israel's got Lavendar, I'm sure the US and China and a few other big military superpowers have their equivalents).

This isn't just capitalism seeking ever-higher rents. Its delusional autocrats believing they can leverage sophisticated algorithms to dictate the life and death of billions of their peers.

These are ticking time bombs. They aren't well regulated or particularly well-understood. They aren't "intelligent", either. Just exceptionally complex. That complexity is both what makes them beguiling and dangerous.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

that doesn’t make the things it ruins intrinsically bad

Hmmm tricky, see for example https://thenewinquiry.com/super-position/ where capitalism is very good at transforming everything and anything, including culture in this example, to preserve itself while making more money for the few. It might not indeed change good things to bad once they already exist, but it can gradually change good things to new bad things while attempting to make them look like the good old ones it replaces.

[–] Debs@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to be so excited about tech announcements. Like...I should be pumped for ai stuff. Now I immediately start thinking about how they are going to use the thing to turn a profit by screwing us over. Can they harvest data with it? Can they charge a subscription for that? I'm getting so jaded.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

this but tech in general.

on the modern internet
when you search for knowledge or try to connect with others on social media or consume content as a form of escapism from this hellhole what do you get?
you get fed ads, sponsored posts, scams, algorithmically curated content to optimize your engagement, and now also AI drivel that's inaccurate and sometimes dangerous.

even off the internet you cannot escape it. there are cameras, microphones, and other sensors everywhere tracking your every movement to anticipate your thoughts and desires to try to sell you something or even manipulate the costs of what you're already planning to buy to optimize profit.

i feel that the modern technological landscape is slowly driving me, a once tech supporter and enthusiast, toward some sort of neo-luddism to get away from it all.

and what's it all boil down to?
money.
it's always about the money.

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Corporate is pushing AI. It's laughably bad. They showed off this automated test writing platform from Meta. That utility, out of 100 runs, had a success rate of 25%. And they were touting how great it was. Entirely embarrassing.

[–] regrub@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I'm so tired of these tech-bros trying to convince everyone that we need AI

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago (23 children)
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought echo chambers were a bad thing?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I also thought echo chambers were a bad thing.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah right ?! glad we agree on this. Damn, we should hang out more often

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mom says it’s my turn to repost this tomorrow.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean.. Shouldn't we start differentiating generative AI from stuff that's actually useful like computer vision?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

That would be nice. If you're talking about generative AI, then call it "generative AI" instead of simply "AI".

[–] emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My head cannon is that AI = LLMS and machine learning = actually useful "artificial intelligence"

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Maybe we can start referring to AI devices as Genius Bars.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

That's the way most discussion trends right now. Blame the tech bros and investors chasing a buck for killing the term AI.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Absolutely! I hate cool and useful shit like OCR (optical character recognition for anyone who doesn't know) getting mixed with ~~content theft~~ generative AI

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