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An erra is to come to an end as the Eu says enough is enough and introduces new rules and hefty fines.

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[–] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 3 hours ago

Hey comment section I forgot to add the URL to this post before posting it earlier today, I added it in now.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

What does it mean to "open up" an operating system in this context? Do they mean something like the possibility to intall other OSes on their devices, or that the app stores needs to be more open? I'm guessing it does not mean they have to start open source:ing parts of the OS... or?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Probably to allow proper sideloading of apps, instead of the contrived bullshit they already tried to pull.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 15 minutes ago

What they've done can be described as nothing other than malicious non-compliance and the EU has been dragging their feet on enforcement.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I would love if device makers were forced to open up their hardware to other OSs. Unlockable bootloaders for all as well as allowing users to install their own signing keys so secure boot can remain enabled.

Granted, there would still be black box firmware required to use half the components inside, but that's another battle.

[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 9 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

This should be a right of the consumer that purchased the hardware. Same goes for gaming consoles. You used to be able to officially install Linux on a PlayStation.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah agreed to an extent but I would say a massive portion of those who installed linux attempted to pirate games. It makes sense to block it.

I'd prefer to mandate that they allow other stores on the consoles or mandate no advertisements or promotions on the console.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 5 hours ago

"But we're selling the hardware at a loss, so letting you own what you paid for would break our crappy business model" /s

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 1 points 4 hours ago

I'd be okay with it even if it were on a time delay.

Like if device manufacturers had to publish their software in order to no longer officially support the device that would be a welcome compromise and at least a step in the right direction right?

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

We are talking about lawmakers making this demand. They don’t have a fucking clue what the difference is between all these possibilities.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

From the last paragraph, it sounds like the intent is to make it easier to switch devices and services, which would be great

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Let's go one further and compel Apple, Microsoft, and Google to open source their entire operating systems. :)

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I am almost certain there would be two major impacts from that. The first being that operating system development would slow to the pace that the community wishes instead of having big money behind it. And the second is that security updates would come quite a bit faster.

Edit: I figure brand new major features would be slower in coming. But security would be improved.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Open source doesn't mean open source development. But yes on the bugfixes

[–] nfms@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The operating system that runs most servers, a lot of them doing web cloud and networking, with high levels of security (developed by security companies) is open source, the *BSD distributions and also Linux.
But I also have doubts if this is the right move.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

But I also have doubts if this is the right move

Can you share those and the reasoning, please?

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Apple opening up would makes to mean toward them more. Still, I'm only going to get a new phone after 2026, after the EU's battery mandate in force.