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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

iot was a great idea, good job, guys! πŸ‘

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago

This is your daily reminder that the "S" in "IOT" stands for "Security."

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why is everything internet connected? Oh yea, I want my stove top to beinternet connected - statements I wish I could say have never been uttered.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

BTW, yea, we got a new stove top it had a WiFi sticker on it agony-consuming WHY. It came with a paper where they had printed licenses, I didn't look at it too much, but I saw "openbsd", WHY IS MY STOVETOP RUNNING OPENBSD SOFTWARE agony-immense

[–] O__O@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

At least it isn’t running windows. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

[–] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Probably ships with OpenSSL and/or OpenSSH. Buying a cheap CH341A programmer off of Aliexpress is a lot of fun because you can actually dump the firmware from like 95% of these things with a $5 tool and poke around/reverse engineer them and do some fun things with that knowledge.

If you learn how to set auto start and stop timers, it defeats the convenience of an app. Shit really isn't that hard.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The bazinga shit is just about mandatory whether people want it or not. The real inevitabilism is a matter of market manipulation by the ruling class, eliminating choices that don't contribute to the real profit motive: data gathering and aggregation.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But they're gathering the data to sell to use on the other guy's Bazinga thing, now advertising has mostly collapsed. It's like a city amateur theatre community, no one actually see the shows that aren't in them, they're just passing the same sad $20 note around in a circle. A fully closed bazinga loop that produces nothing, not even useless stuff.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

A fully closed bazinga loop that produces nothing, not even useless stuff.

yeah, that's the american economy

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

and a convenient form of control

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Plot twist, the attackers are Kias

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago
[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Classic Kia.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A couple years back there was a thing where you could hotwire some Kia models just by jamming a usb plug into a thing on the steering column. Glad to see the brand identity still going strong.

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

that's how my car got stolen!

when you take the ignition protector off, there's a small square piece of metal that you can put a USB plug onto, or just use a set of pliers or something. then, simply press in and turn like an actual key, and presto, you now own a car.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It didn't necessarily have to be a USB plug, that was just a convenient device because it was the right shape and size. A large flat screwdriver would work just as well.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it was just Kia cheaping out by not having an immobilizer. They saved at the very most $100 a car(probably more like $40) by skipping a basic security feature invented in 1985.

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Still very much an ongoing thing that they will face basically no repercussions for

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

me, sweating in my hyundai phoenix-sweat

[–] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Back in the day there was a key that you turn and starts your car. Easy to steal. So manufacturers created keys with 4 rows of pins in the ignition. Hard to steal if you don't know what you're doing.

Then they moved to inductive transponder keys. Also not really an issue, but not as reliable as the older style keys.

Then some sick fucks said "why not make the transponder on the FUCKING KEY FOB" instead of the car itself which has a giant lead acid battery with millions of amp hours and here we are i-love-not-thinking

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Techbros sometimes want to change things because they convince themselves that all changes are smart and cool and "disruptive" without knowing why things were the way they were in the first place. bazinga

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

BILLIONS MUST BE DISRUPTED

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Oh great, this totally won't get somebody hurt or killed. Good job, guys!

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alternative title: Get free remote start on your KIA with this one simple trick!

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Free remote start on your free kia

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

https://archive.ph/i3X1L

for anyone who doesn't want to solve the captcha, that's an archive of https://www.wired.com/story/kia-web-vulnerability-vehicle-hack-track

...which contains a summary of what is in the researchers' post about it here: https://samcurry.net/hacking-kia

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

We call them The Kia Boys around here. I have a buddy that has been a victim twice.