this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2024
-42 points (26.7% liked)

United States | News & Politics

7217 readers
270 users here now

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 
all 38 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] UnhingedStopa@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This guy tries to push so much propaganda it's making me sick

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Leftist agitprop is a good thing.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like I will be blocking them then

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I assure you, my heart is broken 💔

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

they will wisen up sooner or later, they can't be all down with the evil committed in their name

[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I too enjoy a good strawman meme intended to deceive cultists and naive boomers.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Leftists are "cultists?"

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Just vote Dems one more election"

"Just one more lane"

Just like more lanes, more dems don't fix the underlying problem.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn't, but for me anyway, the implications of another Trump presidency or Republicans controlling both houses are terrifying.

People can live with some traffic or construction woes as we struggle for a better transportation system.

There are real differences between Republican and Democrat control that will have serious impacts on healthcare, climate change, and the courts, on top of the awful shit that both parties do.

I hate that I'm voting the way I am because I'm more scared of one candidate than the other, but each year is crucial for climate change, and 4 years of a gutted EPA is reeeeeeaaaaallllly bad.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the other option is to blow up all the roads with zero plans on what or how to replace them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Not just a concept, there are books and examples of Socialism around the world.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So what's your suggestion?

[–] echo@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their suggestion, as the Russian trolls endorse, is to vote for anyone except Harris.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are the Russian Trolls in the room with us?

Yes, just as Muslim activist groups and Palestinians have been suggesting, I will be voting for PSL.

You're also ignoring the bit where I said revolution is necessary.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are the Russian Trolls in the room with us? Probably...

If you don't like the FPTP voting, do something about that. If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, do something about it besides waiting until that is the only choice.

  • Fact 1: Right now, your only choice is to vote for the lesser of the two evils, unless you want to help the worse of two evils.
  • Fact 2: Harris is, by a very large margin, the lesser of the two evils.
  • Fact 3: Your 'messaging' is helping Trump

Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of "the Russian trolls" is to do anything possible to diminish support for Harris either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are "on message" with those who would choose to see Trump win.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you don't like the FPTP voting, do something about that. If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, do something about it besides waiting until that is the only choice.

The "lesser evils" are the Greens and PSL, neither is perfect but both are miles ahead of the current genocidal regime and the other genocidal party. Genocide is a red line. As well as that, I advocate for joining Leftist parties like PSL and FRSO, organizing outside the electoral system.

  • Fact 1: Right now, your only choice is to vote for the lesser of the two evils, unless you want to help the worse of two evils.

They are both unacceptable evil, period. They both support genocide, and they both are gearing up for WW3 with the PRC, and neither is doing what needs to be done for Climate Change. The only peaceful method of saving humanity is pushing repeatedly for the 1% chance of a third party winning, otherwise revolution is necessary anyways.

  • Fact 2: Harris is, by a very large margin, the lesser of the two evils.

Fucking lmao. No, she isn't, she's just a more likeable face of Empire.

  • Fact 3: Your 'messaging' is helping Trump

No it isn't, Harris' dedication to genocide, Imperialism, and failure to meaningfully manage climate change is helping Trump. Your messaging is helping genocide and Imperialism.

Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of "the Russian trolls" is to do anything possible to diminish support for Harris either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are "on message" with those who would choose to see Trump win.

Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of the US State Department is to do anything possible to diminish support for anyone other than Harris and Trump either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are "on message" with those who would choose to see genocide, Imperialism, climate catastrophe, and World War 3.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The “lesser evils” are the Greens and PSL

Don't be obtuse. Either the Democrat or the Republican is going to win. Those are the only two you get to choose from at the moment. You have to start long before the general election if you want to change that reality.

They are both unacceptable evil, period. T

Then don't vote at all or vote third party, but know that by doing so you've supported Trump. You will be personally responsible for Trump winning. Sleep tight.

Don't bother replying if you are just going to continue parroting the Russian propaganda.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Don't be obtuse. Either the Democrat or the Republican is going to win. Those are the only two you get to choose from at the moment. You have to start long before the general election if you want to change that reality.

I have started long before, as have other Leftists. Liberals will fight to the death to defend the status quo, to the point of supporting genocide and imperialism.

Then don't vote at all or vote third party, but know that by doing so you've supported Trump. You will be personally responsible for Trump winning. Sleep tight.

I'll sleep tight knowing I did what Muslim-Americans and Palestinians advocated for me to do, refuse to side with genocide and imperialism. Harris will be personally responsible for campaigning on genocide and imperialism, and World War 3, and refusing to address climate change. You will be personally responsible for her campaigning on that platform instead of trying to force her hand.

Don't bother replying if you are just going to continue parroting the Russian propaganda.

Ah, yes, the genocide of Palestinians is "Russian Propaganda." Hope you can turn yourself around.