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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 1 hour ago

I've never been much of a Nintendo fan, but news like this makes me want to get into using Nintendo emulators.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Nintendo with that big corpo energy

You will run the games on our extremely specific hardware using our proprietary software environment and you will like it!

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't even understand how this would be illegal. How is copyright being violated here? You aren't supposed to be able to file a frivolous DMCA.

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

Most people don't actually understand how copyright works. And the actual right that's restricted is quite ridiculous but it is how it is...

Copyright is not a right given to the copyright holder, unlike every other right in law. Copyright is a exclusion placed on every other human being on earth from reproducing what you did (except few countries that didn't sign it but practically no one lives there or is a territory that effectively works under another sovereignty which does). This distinction is very important. That is, everytime something is created, every other human now has less freedom since they could do that thing before but no longer can. So if I create an original bunny like character, that is copyrighted to me. But I could always depict that and so could you--had you thought of it. But now you no longer can.

This means that virtually every thing made in relation to that original copyright becomes illegal unless you get permission from the copyright holder. There are exceptions such as transformative, parody, fair use, etc but I'll not get into that for now.

In other words specific to this case, every game footage on earth is illegal. But they only continue to exist by the grace of the companies not telling them to take it down. Some companies actually write into their EULA/terms that fan content, etc may be allowed, but again, those are the exceptions. The rule of law is that everything is illegal to start. And that only the copyright holder and its agents be able to request a punishment for breaking the law.

It's a system where it makes every normal human beings into a law breaking entity first and by doing so, it allows the copyright holder to punish anyone they see fit.

This is not a frivolous DMCA. And even if it was, there has been no case where that was ever punished. Even outright perjury for DMCA--which I've dealt with thousands of times doesn't actually get punished in practise.

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 45 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

These assholes can't seem to grasp that emulation is the only reason their old games are still popular.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Particularly with the modding scene. You can't exactly do a randomiser with the cartridge.

[–] Krakaval@jlai.lu 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But they don’t care, do they ? It’s better for them if you stop playing the old game and buy the 1234th remake of Mario at full price on Switch

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

They don't do that. They have re-releases that are available for purchase for a month before they're gone, and then they rent you the old emulated games forever, on worse emulators, with no option to buy them.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Retro Game Corps is the targeted channel in this video. He doesn't focus on piracy of games at all. Mostly he does reviews of hardware and has some high effort videos.

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

Yep, no endorsement of piracy whatsoever. Just showing how to set up emus.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 27 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Is Nintendo trying to get people to not buy their games?

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They want to run their fanbase away, yes

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's working, my desire to buy nintendo games is going down with every piece of news that comes out about them

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Copying Nintendo games isn't only ethical; it's a moral obligation.

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 35 points 5 hours ago

Fuck Nintendo. I refuse to buy any of their games anymore. If its something I want to play, I will pirate instead.

Emulation is the only reason I still talk about or recommend Nintendo games

[–] a_baby_duck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The device in the thumbnail is the Ayaneo Flip DS, for anyone else wondering. From a quick search, it runs Windows and is stupid expensive.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Never give Nintendo money.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 5 hours ago

Man, I know that clamshell Ayaneo is too expensive and that form factor isn't as good as I think it is... but I still really want one.

Oh, hey, is that you, Barbra?

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 4 hours ago

I would say the answer to avoid any of this would be to use homebrew games but I don't know if ones for harder systems to emulate (GameCube, PS2, etc) would be great for testing handheld emulators

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

This is not even remotely new.