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I'm embarrassed to say that I have encountered this, this particular type of story on multiple occasions... So I got curious, is there a name to this trope?

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[–] Rigal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Shan ara chronicles has just that and I searched it in tvtropes: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/TheShannaraChronicles#:~:text=The%20Shannara%20Chronicles%20is%20an%20American%20post-apocalyptic%20fantasy%20drama%20television

The Reveal: Not that the characters particularly care, but Safehold turns out to be the 3000 year old remains of San Francisco

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I wonder who did this first? Didn't ultima have a storyline like this, or am I misremembering a game from before I was born

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i think pops up in early computer rpgs like ultima a lot because the original Dungeons and Dragons was full of that kind of anachronistic stuff. TSR probably didn't intentionally make it post-apocalypse though. they were just cramming whatever they thought was cool at the moment into their game, which is why you're just as likely to find a downed spaceship as a dinosaur in Blackmoore. the post-apocalypse angle probably game to be when early crpgs wanted to ape that but wanted give it a proper story justification

i've also heard people say that the silmarillion has scifi elements, but i'm not sure how much of that is what tolkien intended versus what people read into it. i've also heard that the trope originates from medieval people coming across ruins of ancient roman architecture, but no examples were given- although it's funny to think we have robots in The Legend of Zelda because aquaducts

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Now that you mention it, I seem to remember Xenophon stumbling across giant ruins that perplexed him while out on campaign. I think they were Persian? It very much could be drawing on the experiences of people seeing the ruins of fallen empires.

Edit: AI is telling me that Xenophon traveled through the impressive ruins of Assyrian cities, he was fighting the Persians.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hmm not sure. I guess I'd call it post-apocoliptic fantasy lol. But I know exaxctly what you mean and I love that genre. The Horizon games and even the Witcher books/games fit into this genre.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

The Elder Scrolls. It's not explicitly stated, but iirc it's highly suggested it's post-apocalyptic. That said, it's still fantasy, there's still magic, spellcasting and so forth (there's no indication that the magic is the result of lost tech becoming indistinguishable from magic); it's just that the lore highly suggests it may be post-apocalyptic.

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[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it would be quite interesting to see that trope actually get a name, cause it feels quite overused personally, recently even freaking one piece did it

one of my favorite recent fantasy mangas (helck) also had a pretty...detestably quality with it, the ending was basically "how is thing happening? why? HOW??" and than boom..ancient but also post apocalyptic

however, at least they give it a small spin by basically just being modern day, with a bit of cyberpunk tech

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