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Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn, that's fucked up, sounds like the democrats should do something other then support genocidal states if they want that support so desperately.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

This one weird trick will make white libs cry.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (33 children)

"will vote against Harris" (read: for trump, because that is how our trash elections work) "Neither side will do the right thing on the genocide...so we will elect the one with the worst position and get a bonus of bringing about all manner of horrible outcomes here at home too!"

Alrighty, it's your vote. MAGA uses it to make emotionally driven decisions based on ignorance for outcomes that hurt themselves and those around them, it is fair to let these well-meaning clowns join them in that. Our very own blueMAGA. I hope you lose in a mind-shattering crushing defeat, and then Kamala proves you all wrong. I have my doubts on the last bit, but if y'all can be stupid enough to vote for trump, I can be the same to hope for unlikely change (with the benefit of not also supporting suffering here too).

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[–] SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You should educate yourself by reading The Problem of Political Leadership in the Formation and Development of the Nation and the Modern State in Italy from Gramsci's Prison Notebooks and studying trasformismo in Italian history instead of infantilizing an entire marginalized group over their justified stance against the system currently genociding their friends and family 👍 trust me, you'll learn a lot about our current political situation.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Didn't say it was unjustified. And no.

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[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well idk how Harris can possibly think that videos of her being “slay” and “brat” will fool people who are against genocide into siding with her. It’s very fucked up and Trump is going to be much worse for domestic politics, but I think at this point Arabs have nothing to lose. Also I don’t think many of them would for Trump, they’d rather vote third party or not at all.

Seeing yourself dehumanized on a daily basis by the current administration I wouldn’t give a shit either. They have already shown what they stand for and they promised to continue. If the dems lose against Trump, it’s their own fault. They know what to do, they need to stop the genocide, but they won’t and Arab voters see that.

Trump is gonna suck but that dipshit only cares about money and personal flattery, which adds the element of unpredictability. He’s mostly likely going to be even worse than Biden because he won’t give a shit about Palestinians, but any random shit could happen that makes him do a u-turn. I don’t think it’s likely but it’s the only good thing I could see coming out of this.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He’s mostly likely going to be even worse than Biden because he won’t give a shit about Palestinians

Biden also does not give a shit about Palestinians. I don't know how anyone can watch the happenings of the last year and come away with the idea that Biden gives a single shit about Palestinians.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah you’re absolutely right and I actually never meant to say that Biden gives any shit about Palestinians, I just formulated this in a stupid way. Maybe this is a better formulation:

He’s mostly likely going to be even worse than Biden. But while he also won’t give a shit about Palestinians, any random shit could happen that makes him do a u-turn. I don’t think it’s likely but it’s the only good thing I could see coming out of this.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

true, I agree! he's very unpredictable. apologies for coming off as aggressive, I think everyone is running at very high tensions these days.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

All good I totally get it, didn’t feel like it was an aggressive comment and you were right to clarify that part.

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