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"Whether you hate me, like me or are indifferent, do you want the best car, or do you not want the best car?" [Apartheid Manchild] told audiences at an event in November.

Well, for starters I don't want a car at all. I'd rather use public transit. You know, an actually effective means of reducing emissions.

If I were in the market, yes, I would want the best car. Which is why I'd never buy a Tesla. I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The best car

Teslas aren't even the best electric car. On top of that I would 100% want a Rivian over a cybertruck. Yeah goofy headlights... but better then a wholeass goofy body.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Friend ran afoul of the Tesla's Drive-By-Wire. She had her car on automatic drive and it was speeding towards the bumper of another vehicle. She slammed on the brakes, but because the system has to switch from automatic to manual, the brakes didn't engage for a critical second. So she ended up jamming her car into the rear end of the vehicle in front of her, and her system recorded the event as "human error", because she was at the wheel when the collision occurred.

Now she's out several grand in repairs that her insurance won't cover, because she failed to let Tesla's autodrive system take responsibility for the collusion by trying to prevent it.

Stories like this are what make me incredibly hesitant to buy a Tesla.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I hate Tesla as much as the next guy but this sounds very odd.

It's hard to believe that it's possible to sell a car in 2024 that doesn't apply the brakes when you press your foot on the brakes.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 13 points 2 days ago

Because it's probably bullshit. Elon Musk is a colossal problem, so people feel justified in whatever lies come to mind.

  • The Cybertruck has steer by wire BUT NOT BRAKE BY WIRE. No other Tesla has any such system. The brakes in all Teslas are traditional.

  • The question of who pays when you have an accident with autopilot has basically been settled in court: the normal rules of fault apply. If autopilot is at fault, then you're at fault. If you're in control, and you're at fault, then you're at fault.

The idea that an insurance company says, "Oh, we won't cover it because you deactivated autopilot" is outright silly. Ignore the autopilot thing for a second. What happens when you rear-end someone? Your insurance covers it based on your coverage, and your premiums probably go up significantly.

The driver was supposed to be in control, of a vehicle with traditional brakes, and hit a car. If they have coverage, it should be handled just as if autopilot weren't involved at all unless they can prove that Tesla is at fault.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Your friend lied to you.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 days ago (6 children)

He went from "genius" to "dumbass" when he announced his hyperloop a decade ago, and finally to "someone I have perfect hatred for" in less than a few months given his recent conduct. I don't want his cars, I don't want his robots, I don't want to see his face ever again. He's a piece of shit. If he died, I'd be in line to piss on his grave.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd be in line to shit on his grave.

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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I was considering Starlink

Not anymore

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I do want the best car. I am rejecting Tesla as an option mostly on that basis. But it also feels nice to avoid directly giving money to Trickle-Down Elmo.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Trickle-Down Elmo

Lol, that's a good one

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[–] monke@lemmy.cafe 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Apartheid manchild jumps on stage at a Trump rally

Why wouldn't you buy a car from this guy? 🤔

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago (7 children)

All I see every time I see that photo are the old cheesy Toyota ads.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That and because they have the build quality of a 1980s Yugo but the price tag of a brand new Jaguar.

[–] randoot@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm a person that would 100% buy a Tesla if it wasn't for him.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 85 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Politics aside, if Musk wasn't in charge of Tesla, Tesla would make better cars.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 36 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Absolutely. Because Tesla would be focused on staying ahead of the competition instead of making a useless truck, among other things.

(And by "useless truck" I could mean that mobile dumpster or his big rig jokes.)

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[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My Tesla desire journey has gone from feeling like I was chasing a magical unicorn from the future to not wanting to go anywhere near it. I am planning on buying a new car in the next couple of years and I'd love it to be an EV with good range and short charging times but I don't think it will be a Tesla now.

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[–] LuuTuyen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No real chads would buy a shitty Tesla car, because real chads has old cars

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In reality, the average person doesn't care and doesn't follow news about Elon.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD

Why? They are only marginally better than a Tesla. And the software of the dashboard is designed for Chinese people who like UX and UI that look like the Aliexpress or Taobao website. Really unintuitive. Not to mention the post sales service is about as bad as the post sales service on your Huawei phone. I’d rather buy a KIA.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The company became popular because of the popularity of its founder, and will die alongside his reputation.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm no Tesla historian, but wasn't it already on the way up before Musk got involved?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 2 days ago

It tends to be how he makes all his money, tbh. Spot a company on the rise, buy it, profit.

Twitter is an exception. He's bought that just for propaganda because he can't bear the idea of people not paying attention to him.

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