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"Whether you hate me, like me or are indifferent, do you want the best car, or do you not want the best car?" [Apartheid Manchild] told audiences at an event in November.

Well, for starters I don't want a car at all. I'd rather use public transit. You know, an actually effective means of reducing emissions.

If I were in the market, yes, I would want the best car. Which is why I'd never buy a Tesla. I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They used fake robots at their latest event. They were secretly controller by humans. Tesla is a scam company.

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 2 days ago (16 children)

The Muskrat is the reason why I can't even feel good about anything SpaceX does. Every time they do something to propel space exploration forward, all I can think about is how he and his cronies are going to use it to privatize space for profits.

[–] Nurgus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Every time i hear about SpaceX, I wonder how much further along we'd be if we had proper taxes and gave the money to NASA/ESA. Even if the answer is "about the same" then at least they treat their engineers well.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Every dollar SpaceX spends, NASA gets it done with a fraction of the budget. The James Webb took forever but it was worth it. SpaceX would have trashed it for a tax write off.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

And at least NASA is beholden to US citizens instead of shareholders and a sociopath billionaire.

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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how much longer it will be until the board of directors of the various companies he's involved in start a serious revolt and push to get him out of the company?

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 19 points 1 day ago

It won't happen. Ever since he got ousted from one of his companies he's structured his companies carefully so he can never be ousted again.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll never buy one, and it's 66% because of him. The other 34% is the fact Tesla's are shit quality vehicles. Geico literally refuses to insure the cyber cuck. I didn't misspell that.

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

Well, good for you. Personally I'm not buying an internet connected Chinese car. If a car has the option of spying on you, and potentially be used in a hybrid attack, I'd prefer to get a car from a western manufacturer. And not Tesla either, Musk is too unstable and seems to be influenced by the same powers that has Trump's ball in a vise.

My current car is an internet connected EV, but it sure isn't Chinese or a Tesla.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China can spy on me. I feel safer with them having my info than Musk (Or if you really want to get in the weeds, GM or Ford who's happy to share that info with big insurance and law enforcement)

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One is a totalitarian state who could unleash all its might on you if they wish; the other is still subject to rules and regulations despite being corrupt. I'd rather have Ford and GM spying on my information for corporate interest than a state who wants to micromanage every aspect of your life, thank you very much.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be real...those statements are true of both nations...the only thing that's different is the propaganda you listen to.

China will use my info to market me more and better cheap shit. The US will use my info in litigation or worse.

If China wants to launch a full scale assault, they could, and they'd win. They've got better tech these days and our number the US by like 10 to 1.

I'm less worried about China knocking on my door for political descent than I am of the US these days.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago

Everything you said is literally the other way around.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ideally, no spying at all. My car just gets a radio and nothing else. My phone can be a GPS with a plastic piece that is stuffed in the air grill.

As someone living in the United States, China spying on me doesn't do much. I'm not really a target for them. My data is just sold to the highest bidder, often Facebook or Google to sell me more ads.

If the US government wanted me gone, I'd be gone in 2 days and Fox News and its brainwashed masses would say I deserved it since I never voted for Trump and didn't sing the pledge of alliance every day. If China wanted me gone, they'll have to work for it and it'd be front page news that would become an October surprise.

That's my main two things. As an American, I am impacted by American laws more than China or even Canada's or Mexico's laws. If China banned me (which they have and still do, I'm a queer anarchist) I'm not super impacted by it. If America banned me (I'm a queer anarchist, they've done it before) I need to go into hiding.

Does America want to kill me? Not intentionally, at least. I don't think there's a personal FBI man watching my webcam, seeing me type up the same shitty memes I tell my friends for a quick laugh as we play games. But if America start getting more cult-y with Trump and his ilk, I have to watch my back more than if China suddenly wanted the same body on their doorstep.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

To be fair, the egregious provisions of the PATRIOT act which allows unilateral spying by the US government has not been renewed. But on the one hand, there have been cases of law enforcement agencies buying information from data brokers, which companies have sold to. The Chinese government different, they can straight up spy on you and question you at any time.

This thing isn't something that would personally affect me because here in Europe we have GDPR and the EU is consumer-friendly, but privacy is still I would be concerned of for other parts of the world.

[–] ZDL@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why the flying fuck would I want a western car spying on me here in China?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As I indicated by using first person singular in my comment, I was talking about me. What car you (second, singular) get is up to you.

While I did write "If a car has the option of spying on you[...]", I hope my usage of "you" as an informal pronoun was clear. I do realize that I could have used the word "one" instead, or rewritten the sentence entirely. I wrote like I speak, and I unfortunately do not speak like an English professor.

Please remind me, where did you tell me that you live in China?

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[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Because some American car company won't disappear you for having the wrong political opinion.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean american aircraft companies wouldn't that is for sure!

...unless they are boeing!

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty much up until 2020 I was thinking about a Tesla for my first EV. In '22 the time came for a new car and I went with a different EV because Tesla's quality control has plummeted due to Elon's reckless leadership.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 135 points 3 days ago (3 children)

before i get sued by Elon for not buying Tesla, just wanted to say i was never a potential buyer

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